Nice. A Dra'Azon dead world in our own backyard.
It's just an outpost, they're waiting for us to implode. Any moment now...
Paper posits ultradense asteroid 33 Polyhymnia has transuranic elements
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Re: Paper posits ultradense asteroid 33 Polyhymnia has transuranic elements
#22Funny, just recently I was thinking about this since I have not heard about anything new regarding this in ages. Chemists call this an Island of stability. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability But claiming, with very limited data, that this asteroid consists of ultraheavy, unknown elements of the periodic table violates Occams razor. I predict he is wrong.
Of course they are wrong. I can't read the actual article, it is behind a paywall, but my guess is that they qualify heavily any statements about superheavy elements on the 33 Polyhymnia asteroid, otherwise I can't see how it could pass peer review. From the abstract of the article, it appears that it is simply presenting some numerical calculation that show that the element 164 would have a density in a certain rang…
On the other hand, there is an obscure Russian paper about asteroids.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279166139_Charge_sp...
Abstract—In this paper, we present the last results of the OLIMPIA experiment on the search forand study of traces of heavy and superheavy element nuclei of galactic cosmic rays in olivine crystalsfrom meteorites. The charge spectrum of cosmic rays in the region of heavy nuclei is obtained, threesuperheavy nuclei of natural origin with charges in the range 105 <Z<130 and lifetimes longerthan 3000 years, being a part of the so-called “stability island”,areidentified.DOI: 10.3103/S1068335615050073
Re: Paper posits ultradense asteroid 33 Polyhymnia has transuranic elements
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course they are wrong. I can't read the actual article, it is behind a paywall, but my guess is that they qualify heavily any statements about superheavy elements on the 33 Polyhymnia asteroid, otherwise I can't see how it could pass peer review. From the abstract of the article, it appears that it is simply presenting some numerical calculation that show that the element 164 would have a density in a certain rang…
On the other hand, there is an obscure Russian paper about asteroids. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279166139_Charge_sp... Abstract—In this paper, we present the last results of the OLIMPIA experiment on the search forand study of traces of heavy and superheavy element nuclei of galactic cosmic rays in olivine crystalsfrom meteorites. The charge spectrum of cosmic rays in the region of heavy nuclei is obta…
This is fine, but nothing to do with the claim that 33 Polyhmnia has a very high density. The study you cite mention "traces". Traces of heavy elements can't change significantly the density of an asteroid.
Re: Paper posits ultradense asteroid 33 Polyhymnia has transuranic elements
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the other hand, there is an obscure Russian paper about asteroids. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279166139_Charge_sp... Abstract—In this paper, we present the last results of the OLIMPIA experiment on the search forand study of traces of heavy and superheavy element nuclei of galactic cosmic rays in olivine crystalsfrom meteorites. The charge spectrum of cosmic rays in the region of heavy nuclei is obta…
This is fine, but nothing to do with the claim that 33 Polyhmnia has a very high density. The study you cite mention "traces". Traces of heavy elements can't change significantly the density of an asteroid.
Fuck the traces or not.
"being a part of the so-called “stability island”"
This is still an extraordinary claim!
Re: Paper posits ultradense asteroid 33 Polyhymnia has transuranic elements
#25Funny, just recently I was thinking about this since I have not heard about anything new regarding this in ages. Chemists call this an Island of stability. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability But claiming, with very limited data, that this asteroid consists of ultraheavy, unknown elements of the periodic table violates Occams razor. I predict he is wrong.
Of course they are wrong. I can't read the actual article, it is behind a paywall, but my guess is that they qualify heavily any statements about superheavy elements on the 33 Polyhymnia asteroid, otherwise I can't see how it could pass peer review. From the abstract of the article, it appears that it is simply presenting some numerical calculation that show that the element 164 would have a density in a certain rang…
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