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Calorie restriction in humans builds strong muscle and stimulates healthy aging

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Re: Calorie restriction in humans builds strong muscle and stimulates healthy aging

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Post by livueta »

abletonlive wrote: post #20
livueta wrote: post #5

I did a bit of a double-take at the headline because it seems to imply that one can grow stronger while calorie-restricted, which is contrary to common practice around strength development - caloric surplus is generally understood to be necessary for muscle growth. I've only read the abstract, but the title as I interpreted it seems misleading: > One study showed that individuals on calorie restriction lost muscle ma…

> which is contrary to common practice around strength development This belief is already changing in bodybuilding and strength circles. Surprisingly, the fitness influencers on tiktok are leading the charge in changing minds about this.

Interesting - guess that hasn't percolated through to my traditional powerlifting-ish circles yet. I'd love to read/watch anything on this you've found useful.

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Post by logicchains »

abletonlive wrote: post #20
livueta wrote: post #5

I did a bit of a double-take at the headline because it seems to imply that one can grow stronger while calorie-restricted, which is contrary to common practice around strength development - caloric surplus is generally understood to be necessary for muscle growth. I've only read the abstract, but the title as I interpreted it seems misleading: > One study showed that individuals on calorie restriction lost muscle ma…

> which is contrary to common practice around strength development This belief is already changing in bodybuilding and strength circles. Surprisingly, the fitness influencers on tiktok are leading the charge in changing minds about this.

That Ukrainian guy on tiktok who only weighs around 80kg but can deadlift over 270kg.

Re: Calorie restriction in humans builds strong muscle and stimulates healthy aging

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Post by tayo42 »

livueta wrote: post #21
abletonlive wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> which is contrary to common practice around strength development This belief is already changing in bodybuilding and strength circles. Surprisingly, the fitness influencers on tiktok are leading the charge in changing minds about this.

Interesting - guess that hasn't percolated through to my traditional powerlifting-ish circles yet. I'd love to read/watch anything on this you've found useful.

Idk the bro science i always heard, for at least 10 to 15 years, suggests that strength is alot of stuff like neurons firing. You can take time off from lifting and get back to it pretty quick. Size from body building is mostly targeting hypertrophy, breaking down muscle and have then regrow to be larger. Strength and size would normally correlate but couldn't get someone's strength just from their size.

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Post by yodsanklai »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #16

> They found that during a two-year span, the goal for participants was to reduce their daily caloric intake by 25%, but the highest the group was able to reach was a 12% reduction This feels like something the royal we should be talking about as well. It’s clearly really difficult to restrict calories/eat less in the US. It’s unclear if this is a US only phenomenon or not but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were.

> It’s clearly really difficult to restrict calories/eat less in the US

Just came back from a 3 weeks trip to the US. I found it easy to control my calorie intake by just skipping a meal or two and avoiding sodas and sweets. It was much harder to eat something reasonably healthy while being on the move though. I'd be curious to check my cholesterol level before and after the trip.

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Post by woleium »

cko wrote: post #14
atum47 wrote: post #7

12% reduction of what? The basal metabolism? Were the people overeating before? How many calories on average?

I never get this "calorie restriction" term. What does it mean? I have a BMI of 20. Should I reduce my intake by 12%? When do I stop reducing? I want to live longer. I would also like to build some more muscle, ideally to a BMI of 22. What if I gain 10lbs of muscle then restrict?

Read Roy Walford out of UCLA on the CRON diet

Re: Calorie restriction in humans builds strong muscle and stimulates healthy aging

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Post by woleium »

yodsanklai wrote: post #27
knodi wrote: post #24

Does any one find hard to eat a lot of protein (150g) in a 8 hour feeding window? I hate to live off of protein shacks.

Do you really need that much protein though?

That’s quite a contentious question, there aren’t that many good studies, and they are difficult to do well

Re: Calorie restriction in humans builds strong muscle and stimulates healthy aging

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Post by dxuh »

knodi wrote: post #24

Does any one find hard to eat a lot of protein (150g) in a 8 hour feeding window? I hate to live off of protein shacks.

I do 4 meals at 40g each. Only one of those meals has a single scoop of whey protein (I add it to my pre-workout oats). Though all the meals usually revolve around some high protein source like cottage cheese, skyr, eggs and of course chicken breast. YouTube is full of high protein recipes (look for bodybuilding "full day of eating" videos and the like). Some channels just produce a ton of videos with anabolic recipes (jclarkefitness, felu and pretty much every major fitness influencer).
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