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Are we heading for World War Three?
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#22Does anyone have a plan for avoiding it?
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#23Does anyone have a plan for avoiding it?
Yes
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#24Having lived through Vietnam, Pol Pot, Munich Olympics, the height of the cold war and then the collapse of the Soviet Union and most Communism, Iranian hostages, Korean Air 007, any number of incidents in the middle east, more revolutions and coups in Africa than I can point to, bombings in Bali, Tianenmen Square, Falkland Islands, US invasions of Iraq, Grenada, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and on and on.... Why would…
> Why would I think that current events are different in some fundamental way? They are different in a sense US Empire and its vassals are starting to lose wars and influence, so westerners started noticing these events as negative. Previously, they didn’t care.
The parent listed Vietnam. The USA lost Vietnam even more soundly than Afghanistan, including almost 50k killed, and 300k wounded. Pol Pot murdered 40% of Cambodia. Saudi almost collapsed with the Grand Mosque. Nothing today comes close to those strains.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why would I think that current events are different in some fundamental way? They are different in a sense US Empire and its vassals are starting to lose wars and influence, so westerners started noticing these events as negative. Previously, they didn’t care.
The parent listed Vietnam. The USA lost Vietnam even more soundly than Afghanistan, including almost 50k killed, and 300k wounded. Pol Pot murdered 40% of Cambodia. Saudi almost collapsed with the Grand Mosque. Nothing today comes close to those strains.
> The USA lost Vietnam
"We did not lose! It was a tie!"
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#26Having lived through Vietnam, Pol Pot, Munich Olympics, the height of the cold war and then the collapse of the Soviet Union and most Communism, Iranian hostages, Korean Air 007, any number of incidents in the middle east, more revolutions and coups in Africa than I can point to, bombings in Bali, Tianenmen Square, Falkland Islands, US invasions of Iraq, Grenada, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and on and on.... Why would…
I wonder if in 1,000 years these power struggles and land disputes will feel as antiquated as witch hunts. Sadly I fear not, human greed has no limit.
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#27> A leading academic at the University of Cambridge told the i news site in March that the technology could, in an extreme case, “mistake a bird as an incoming threat and trigger a nuclear launch if no human override is in place to assess alerts from an AI-assisted early-warning system”.
With all due respect to the "leading academic", this is one of the most stupid things I read this year. But then I read this:
> Although no state is openly attempting to automate its nuclear weapons systems, “integrating AI with command systems seems promising and even unavoidable”, said Peter Rautenbach from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
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#28Having lived through Vietnam, Pol Pot, Munich Olympics, the height of the cold war and then the collapse of the Soviet Union and most Communism, Iranian hostages, Korean Air 007, any number of incidents in the middle east, more revolutions and coups in Africa than I can point to, bombings in Bali, Tianenmen Square, Falkland Islands, US invasions of Iraq, Grenada, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and on and on.... Why would…
I don't think they're different. I think in both those situations and today they all had a small chance of kicking off WW3. If we keep rolling that D20 eventually we will roll a 1.
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#29Does anyone have a plan for avoiding it?
What about accelerating the natural outcome?
One side wins. Takes it all. We who are remaining adapt.
At some point we must enter the middle or end game.
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#30The article is a bunch of hot quotes sequestered from various media sources (and from Putin very own Cerberus dog, Dimitri Medvedev), and does not make a case for a full-fledged World War breaking out anytime soon. Well it does say that AI error will fire-up the nukes, but let's not go down that rabbit hole. Maybe AI wrote the article itself.
Yes, Iran, Russia and China in particular have broad geopolitical aspirations that they have not been able to achieve with money and influence, ie. China's innocuous Belt and Road, Russia's imperial conflicts, support of the alt-right and misinformation campaigns and Iran's ever-lasting war on Israel. They now chose to leverage with the West by prying on Western aversion to armed conflict. But bullying, hacking and horrific terrorist acts are no foreplay to WWIII.