Wow, interesting that just $50/month did almost just as well as $1000/month.
Is giving people cash working? Six months of Denver's Basic Income Project
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#22$1,000 a month won't even get you a small apartment where I live. You'd need double that just to rent one. Denver citizens must be lucky. My current home costs around $1,600 a month, utilities not included.
You may have a higher standard of living than a recently homeless person. Also consider that this may not be their only income, and they might share some of the burden with others.
> Denver citizens must be lucky.
LOL
Re: Is giving people cash working? Six months of Denver's Basic Income Project
#23It's just a band aid on a bleeding wound. UBI needs to be implemented as a large scale bureaucracy. A network of subsidizations that ensure citizens have social housing, rent payed, and enough to sustain themselves. Like it or not, it requires government regulation. Because otherwise renters will never accept social housing, or tenant who's rent is being subsidized.
You can't just hand out money to people.
Re: Is giving people cash working? Six months of Denver's Basic Income Project
#24$1,000 a month won't even get you a small apartment where I live. You'd need double that just to rent one. Denver citizens must be lucky. My current home costs around $1,600 a month, utilities not included.
1000 a month can easily get you an illegal room in some basement or someone’s adapted garage, with enough money to spare for a good outfit, a workable phone, and an internet subscription to start applying for jobs.
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#25The massive increase seen in the control group seems to indicate that either ~5% of the money delivers >50% of the benefit, or there were some other factors that were more significant than the money.
Re: Is giving people cash working? Six months of Denver's Basic Income Project
#26$1,000 a month won't even get you a small apartment where I live. You'd need double that just to rent one. Denver citizens must be lucky. My current home costs around $1,600 a month, utilities not included.
You don't need a small apartment to get out of homelessness, you just need a room What's the cheapest shared room (roommate wanted) where you live? e.g. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/roo?max_price=500#search...
You obviously have never lived with unstable people who often live just above the poverty line. There’s a reason why share houses and shelters don’t work.
Re: Is giving people cash working? Six months of Denver's Basic Income Project
#27$1,000 a month won't even get you a small apartment where I live. You'd need double that just to rent one. Denver citizens must be lucky. My current home costs around $1,600 a month, utilities not included.
You don't need a small apartment to get out of homelessness, you just need a room What's the cheapest shared room (roommate wanted) where you live? e.g. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/roo?max_price=500#search...
I suppose the cheapest room I can find here is $700 a month. Which wouldn't be unlivable, I suppose. There was a group in the study that only got $50 a month, after all.
Re: Is giving people cash working? Six months of Denver's Basic Income Project
#28But this is not what basic income is about, is it? As far as I know, basic income means that everybody receives a fixed income, rich or poor. What happens in Denver is just a social project, the only thing mildly special about it is that recipients didn't have to do anything in return. But there have been many of such projects in countries all over the world.
Giving everyone a basic income is more commonly called Universal Basic Income.
But they are not giving it to everyone, just to homeless people. That does not warrant the "Universal" part of the name.
EDIT: I think I misread the whole thing, it really does not say "Universal" anywhere :) Anyway, I think someone, soon will try to use this project as an argument in favor of UBI, which is ridiculous.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pensions are gated by age.
and depend on how much you put into them
Not always!