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Karaniya Metta Sutta: The Buddha's Words on Loving-Kindness

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Re: Karaniya Metta Sutta: The Buddha's Words on Loving-Kindness

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post #15

Like nearly all Buddhist teachings, there are practices you can do to develop these faculties. For example, you can reflect that all beings have at one time or another been your mother, or your child; realizing this, how can you feel hatred towards any other being? It doesn't work for me, of course; I don't believe in rebirth.

> It doesn't work for me, of course; I don't believe in rebirth. Are you still able to generate loving-kindness in yourself? If so, then those teachings that don't work for you don't matter.

Well, honestly I don't know. If I had feelings of loving kindness, I'd know that; but that would be just feelings. I don't have a loving-kindness detector, and I wouldn't know how to calibrate it if I did.

I suppose one could work from hatred; people generally know if they hate something. So if one has reduced the incidence of hatred, then perhaps you could say the technique worked. I used the technique (along with others) over a period of a couple of decades, during which I "suspended belief" concerning rebirth. But over a couple of decades, it's quite possible that my personality changed for other reasons - such as other techniques, or watching my children grow up, or simply maturing.

Re: Karaniya Metta Sutta: The Buddha's Words on Loving-Kindness

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post #6

Interesting to see this here, without any context attached. I've been practicing loving kindness meditation for a few months now and the results have been incredible. I'm atheist, pretty sure reincarnation is bullshit, but the method described in this sutta works. In mundane terms, you can train your brain to be happier and more joyful by those simple visualizations. I'm not quite sure what is the role of spreading k…

Any recommendations for where to start learning?

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#23
post #6

Interesting to see this here, without any context attached. I've been practicing loving kindness meditation for a few months now and the results have been incredible. I'm atheist, pretty sure reincarnation is bullshit, but the method described in this sutta works. In mundane terms, you can train your brain to be happier and more joyful by those simple visualizations. I'm not quite sure what is the role of spreading k…

Any recommendations for where to start learning?

If you’re new to meditation, then I can highly recommend “Waking Up”.

Re: Karaniya Metta Sutta: The Buddha's Words on Loving-Kindness

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It doesn't work for me, of course; I don't believe in rebirth. Are you still able to generate loving-kindness in yourself? If so, then those teachings that don't work for you don't matter.

Well, honestly I don't know. If I had feelings of loving kindness, I'd know that; but that would be just feelings. I don't have a loving-kindness detector, and I wouldn't know how to calibrate it if I did. I suppose one could work from hatred; people generally know if they hate something. So if one has reduced the incidence of hatred, then perhaps you could say the technique worked. I used the technique (along with o…

If I may tease you lovingly for a moment, when you smile at your child do you go "I am unable to detect what is happening!" :P

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post #6

Interesting to see this here, without any context attached. I've been practicing loving kindness meditation for a few months now and the results have been incredible. I'm atheist, pretty sure reincarnation is bullshit, but the method described in this sutta works. In mundane terms, you can train your brain to be happier and more joyful by those simple visualizations. I'm not quite sure what is the role of spreading k…

Any recommendations for where to start learning?

Here is a good starting point: https://www.reddit.com/r/streamentry/wiki/twim-crash-course

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any recommendations for where to start learning?

Here is a good starting point: https://www.reddit.com/r/streamentry/wiki/twim-crash-course

Big fan of TWIM. I've tried several methods and TWIM seems to work super well with my brain.

Re: Karaniya Metta Sutta: The Buddha's Words on Loving-Kindness

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, honestly I don't know. If I had feelings of loving kindness, I'd know that; but that would be just feelings. I don't have a loving-kindness detector, and I wouldn't know how to calibrate it if I did. I suppose one could work from hatred; people generally know if they hate something. So if one has reduced the incidence of hatred, then perhaps you could say the technique worked. I used the technique (along with o…

If I may tease you lovingly for a moment, when you smile at your child do you go "I am unable to detect what is happening!" :P

Small animals also help. :)

I can't help but feel happiness and goodwill for a cute cat or bunny. Once I have that feeling, I can pay attention to it, keep it going, sit with it, or wish that feeling for myself or to others. If I lose it, I just bring up an endearing image or thought of the cat/bunny/my kiddo and pay attention to that feeling again.

Re: Karaniya Metta Sutta: The Buddha's Words on Loving-Kindness

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Like nearly all Buddhist teachings, there are practices you can do to develop these faculties. For example, you can reflect that all beings have at one time or another been your mother, or your child; realizing this, how can you feel hatred towards any other being? It doesn't work for me, of course; I don't believe in rebirth.

> For example, you can reflect that all beings have at one time or another been your mother, or your child; realizing this, how can you feel hatred towards any other being?

What's the exact cosmology again?

1. Every being is likely to be your mother

2. Every being has been your mother with certainty (beginningless time)

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#29
post #14

Although the prose is beautiful, the word lovingkindness has a different meaning. It was an English word invented to translate hesed in Hebrew into English. The Word of God, esp in King James Bible, uses this word to explain how God loves His chosen people. https://www.compellingtruth.org/lovingkindness.html We are undeserving, evil people who deserve justice for our sins. Instead, God offers us a chance to repent an…

> We are undeserving, evil people who deserve justice for our sins. I'm not an evil person.

We all tell ourselves that. God is holy, loving, and just. He’s that all of the time. Heaven will be life without a single act of evil. God’s definition of good is that you obey Him and love others without failure.

In your case, you can test yourself using Romans 1:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A18-3...

Have you ever lied, stolen, cheated, shown apathy, lusted, or wished evil on someone? Have you rejected the true God or tried to live your own way instead of His? These are evil per the God that defines what morality is.

“The wages of sin is death but the free gift of God us eternal life in Jesus Christ.”

Fortunately for you and I, the only good person to ever live… tempted in all ways we are but having committed no sin… earned God’s favor for you, died for your sins, was raised again, and offered you eternal life in His name. You just have to repent and put your trust in what He did. He’ll also transform you from the inside out when the Spirit of God dwells in you.

Re: Karaniya Metta Sutta: The Buddha's Words on Loving-Kindness

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Although the prose is beautiful, the word lovingkindness has a different meaning. It was an English word invented to translate hesed in Hebrew into English. The Word of God, esp in King James Bible, uses this word to explain how God loves His chosen people. https://www.compellingtruth.org/lovingkindness.html We are undeserving, evil people who deserve justice for our sins. Instead, God offers us a chance to repent an…

Conditional grace is not grace. The human experience of grace is so much larger than what you describe.

Grace is anything that’s not deserved that is given. You could tell your kid they get a new car so long as they do their homework every night. They could do this and still not deserve a car. You don’t have to give it. So, that would still be an act of grace even in conditional.

Whereas, while we were still sinners (enemies of God), Christ died for us. He laid His life down for us. He left everything He had in heaven to save those He loved. At every point, we were undeserving enemies. If we repent and trust Him, we still keep turning on Him and failing. Yet, nobody can snatch us out of His hand.

That’s grace upon grace that God lavishes upon those who believe in Jesus Christ.

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