OpenIPC really didn't mean what I thought it did. I was 100% sure it would be some kind of inter-process communication abstraction / framework.
OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
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Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#22https://openipc.org/support-open-source >It's Open Source >Price of the Firmware >The right to use the OpenIPC firmware and its components is granted to all users free of charge and only for personal, non-commercial purposes. If you are interested in using OpenIPC for your business projects, please contact our team.
For really wanting open source, the OpenWrt model has seemed pretty good, and the nature of the engineering work seems similar. Some hardware vendors use OpenWrt for their firmware, which seems to help the mainline open source OpenWrt also have good support for that hardware.
Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#23You never really know what hardware ships internally at any given time, ie what SoC a camera really is. They change frequently in random Chinese manufacturers with internal SoC hardware update with constant improvement (in their margins at least), if reported by someone at a point in time, buying the same model a 6mo-1yr later you cannot expect the same model number to be the same hardware.
It is rarely stated on a site selling them what SoC they use, or the vendors sites, assuming you can find and/or translate anything usable, or if the vendor is even still around more than a few months under that name. Therefore there is no repeatable source of products you can get reliably across time without simply testing a sample and hacking your own as you go.
I really wish someone would take initiative to sell/resell a line of camera hardware with openipc or other open firmware on them. It's a business opportunity sorely missing with nothing to offer home/business users ip cameras with open sterile and guaranteed secure firmware vs. random pure Chinese jank.
Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#24Having looked into this myself prior was mostly asking for disappointment. Getting a random Chinese IP camera to convert to open firmware is great in theory, but the problem is actually buying a camera or 10, or buying more over time. You never really know what hardware ships internally at any given time, ie what SoC a camera really is. They change frequently in random Chinese manufacturers with internal SoC hardware…
Manufacturers could do it themselves, but the license prohibits commercial use.
Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#25Having looked into this myself prior was mostly asking for disappointment. Getting a random Chinese IP camera to convert to open firmware is great in theory, but the problem is actually buying a camera or 10, or buying more over time. You never really know what hardware ships internally at any given time, ie what SoC a camera really is. They change frequently in random Chinese manufacturers with internal SoC hardware…
> I really wish someone would take initiative to sell/resell a line of camera hardware with openipc or other open firmware on them. It's a business opportunity sorely missing with nothing to offer home/business users ip cameras with open sterile and guaranteed secure firmware vs. random pure Chinese jank. Manufacturers could do it themselves, but the license prohibits commercial use.
Edit: since people are arguing with me, the text I quoted is right of the main page for OpenIPC, and everything here is MIT licensed too: https://github.com/OpenIPC
Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#26OpenIPC is one of those projects where the core team is Russian, and their communication is Russian, and they use Telegram (or a bridge) for everything. As a non-Russian speaker you're pretty lost trying to contribute, and as a result they attract hardly anyone outside the russosphere. I've tried telling them they're artifically limiting their project, but was predictably ignored. This project has so much potential,…
If you really want to contribute, I'm sure you can figure out a way. You can always fork it and do your own thing, that's potentially a contribution in itself. It's a little selfish to expect other people to become fluent in technical English and rearrange their project to suit your desires.
Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#27Seems like e.g. (most of) the sensor drivers are binary blobs. Some examples: Ambarella S3L: https://github.com/OpenIPC/firmware/tree/master/general/pack... Some HiSilicon chipset: https://github.com/OpenIPC/firmware/tree/master/general/pack... Edit: A smaller subset of sensors have some code here: https://github.com/OpenIPC/sensors
Strong Android homebrew firmware vibe.
Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I really wish someone would take initiative to sell/resell a line of camera hardware with openipc or other open firmware on them. It's a business opportunity sorely missing with nothing to offer home/business users ip cameras with open sterile and guaranteed secure firmware vs. random pure Chinese jank. Manufacturers could do it themselves, but the license prohibits commercial use.
> OpenIPC source code is released under one of the most simple open source license agreements, MIT License, giving users express permission to reuse code for any purpose, even as part of a proprietary software. We only ask you politely to contribute your improvements back to us. We would be grateful for any feedback and suggestions. Edit: since people are arguing with me, the text I quoted is right of the main page f…
Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I really wish someone would take initiative to sell/resell a line of camera hardware with openipc or other open firmware on them. It's a business opportunity sorely missing with nothing to offer home/business users ip cameras with open sterile and guaranteed secure firmware vs. random pure Chinese jank. Manufacturers could do it themselves, but the license prohibits commercial use.
> OpenIPC source code is released under one of the most simple open source license agreements, MIT License, giving users express permission to reuse code for any purpose, even as part of a proprietary software. We only ask you politely to contribute your improvements back to us. We would be grateful for any feedback and suggestions. Edit: since people are arguing with me, the text I quoted is right of the main page f…
Source: https://openipc.org/
Re: OpenIPC: Alternative open firmware for your IP camera
#30Having looked into this myself prior was mostly asking for disappointment. Getting a random Chinese IP camera to convert to open firmware is great in theory, but the problem is actually buying a camera or 10, or buying more over time. You never really know what hardware ships internally at any given time, ie what SoC a camera really is. They change frequently in random Chinese manufacturers with internal SoC hardware…