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Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

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Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

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post #5

Can we just let people be fat and happy

Anyone is welcome to be fat and happy, but don't put down those who want to un-fat to be happy. Don't come back with that fatness is a social construct stuff either; your fat and happy idea is just as much a social construct.

Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

#22

It's going to be very interesting to see how the people who insisted on getting off-label prescriptions fare in court.

All the non-diabetics using it will generate great data.. for the rest of us.

Unfortunately not really, because the infrastructure that allows us to glean insights from actual healthcare practices is abysmal/nonexistent, at least in the US.

It became clear during COVID that a lot of people seem to presume there's some way for researchers to just "look at what's happening," and there isn't.

Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

#24

It's going to be very interesting to see how the people who insisted on getting off-label prescriptions fare in court.

When it comes to prescription drug liability claims, it doesn't really matter whether the use was off-label. The key factor is whether harmful side effects were properly disclosed on the product label. Where manufacturers really get hit with huge verdicts is when they knew (or should have known) about a side effect but failed to put it on the label.

Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

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Not sure why people are downvoting, these drugs are a major threat to the fast/junk food industry. If these drugs continue being used we might have reached “peak calorie” consumption in the west. There are a lot of scaremongering articles for this class of drugs. The media constantly runs articles to scare people out of taking it. Gastroparesis is often mentioned. You know what often causes this? Being obese and havi…

Surely there's no way that the food industry will figure out a way to pack more flavor and more psychological satisfaction into less nutritious, less satiating forms, right?

Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

#26
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can! But should we? Being fat is similar to being a drug user. At first, you actually are fat and happy. Over time, being fat will absolutely reduce your happiness from the medical, societal, and physical issues that arise. Similar to how drug users build up a tolerance and instead of using the drug to be happy, they use the drug to feel normal. And just to state a simple fact, I do not condone shaming people with…

I have thought of this before. But it isn't really the same. Drugs, the really bad ones will probably ruin your life or kill you in the space of two or three years. Being fat unless it's super super severe often won't start impacting your health seriously until your 30's or 40's. on the opposite side anorexia will kill you much faster than obesity

So what about smoking?

It's good that we discourage smoking, even aside from the secondhand smoke component.

Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

#27
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can! But should we? Being fat is similar to being a drug user. At first, you actually are fat and happy. Over time, being fat will absolutely reduce your happiness from the medical, societal, and physical issues that arise. Similar to how drug users build up a tolerance and instead of using the drug to be happy, they use the drug to feel normal. And just to state a simple fact, I do not condone shaming people with…

I have thought of this before. But it isn't really the same. Drugs, the really bad ones will probably ruin your life or kill you in the space of two or three years. Being fat unless it's super super severe often won't start impacting your health seriously until your 30's or 40's. on the opposite side anorexia will kill you much faster than obesity

Some drugs will kill you slowly also. Doesn't mean they're good for you.

Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

#28
post #14

Anecdotal experience - Good friend of mine who struggles with weight was taking Ozempic for about two months. He described nausea quite often when I saw him but the results were pretty astounding. He then hit a wall where gastroparesis would happen quite often and I happened to be at his house when one of these bouts got very severe. He went from feeling bad, to hunched over in pain and started projectile vomiting in…

His doctor isn't monitoring correctly. They should drop the dose. Standard treatment is start with a really smart dose then you double it each month for 5 months. In reality, if you're losing weight, you should just keep on that dosage.

Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

#29
post #5

Can we just let people be fat and happy

It kind of really puts a load on the healthcare system and makes everyone’s rates go up. Plus it’s terrible for the individual themselves. Societal pressure is a fantastic motivator.

Re: Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

#30
post #21
post #5

Can we just let people be fat and happy

Anyone is welcome to be fat and happy, but don't put down those who want to un-fat to be happy. Don't come back with that fatness is a social construct stuff either; your fat and happy idea is just as much a social construct.

And please don't ask me to pay for your healthcare because you chose to be fat and happy.
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