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Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by wslh »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #20
fnordpiglet wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Autism spectrum disorder isn’t a disease like COVID with a known cause. There are likely many things that lead to symptoms consistent with ASD. According to the link the mold infection has biomarkers, and presumably it’s possible that some people who have this infection and ASD can be treated for the infection and might see improvement. However I don’t think the article implies in any way that ASD is caused by mold i…

everything is connected, my mom believed my brother's ASD was because of vaccines, I didn't have much of an opinion till I researched it years later and learned it was based on one cooks theories, but this seems like a more sound research study, albeit a small sample size. I'm self diagnosed (3 of my friends with ASD told me I'm probably am on spectrum, because I over share and don't shut up about a subject I like.),…

Another explanation could be found in the DNA where siblings share the same traits even at a family distance > 3.

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by the_only_law »

Lol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own...

Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quackery, but having this guy on there hardly instills faith)

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Post by giarc »

victorbstan wrote: post #6
giarc wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's likely that there are many causes of autism. For example, there have been successful results of giving stool transplants to children with resolution of symptoms.

Which also indicates a bacteria cause, no?

Yes, stool transplants attempt to reset the gut to a normal set of flora. The hypothesis is that something upset the flora in the gut of kids with ASD and resetting it resolves the symptoms. When I did research in the field, the thought at the time was that various Clostridia species may be the cause. They are known to produce toxins that can act on neurological cells (think Clostridum botulinum). The thought was these bacteria were more prevalent in kids, and their presence released toxins causing the symptoms. By resetting the gut and getting rid of these bacteria, the toxins disappeared and so did the symptoms. I haven't look at the literature in quite a while so things could have changed.

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by dekhn »

_dain_ wrote: post #18

I keep warning Hackernews not to trust fungi, and people downvoted me for it. But I keep getting proved right. Don't trust those spores. They're everywhere: in the trees, in the breeze, even our cheese.

don't forget beer and bread! it's EVERYWHERE

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by meepmorp »

the_only_law wrote: post #22

Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own... Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quacker…

Just because someone has a history of being deceitful and making up things to further their own agenda, that doesn't mean we should discount everything they say - especially when it's an extraordinary, n=1 result in the case of a complex disorder.

And honestly, it's kind of disrespectful to bring up someone's history of grifting in this context. We should trust each other more, not less, and that starts with believing people who suggest suspiciously easy answers to questions that have hitherto resisted easy answers.

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meepmorp wrote: post #27
the_only_law wrote: post #22

Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own... Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quacker…

Just because someone has a history of being deceitful and making up things to further their own agenda, that doesn't mean we should discount everything they say - especially when it's an extraordinary, n=1 result in the case of a complex disorder. And honestly, it's kind of disrespectful to bring up someone's history of grifting in this context. We should trust each other more, not less, and that starts with believin…

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Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by ericfrazier »

meepmorp wrote: post #27
the_only_law wrote: post #22

Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own... Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quacker…

Just because someone has a history of being deceitful and making up things to further their own agenda, that doesn't mean we should discount everything they say - especially when it's an extraordinary, n=1 result in the case of a complex disorder. And honestly, it's kind of disrespectful to bring up someone's history of grifting in this context. We should trust each other more, not less, and that starts with believin…

/s

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by johnrob »

Autism diagnosis are based on nothing more than behavior. The facts here are that one child behaved in a manner consistent (enough) with the criteria for ASD. After treating a fungal infection, the child’s behavior changed. I think it’s a stretch to associate fungal infections with autism. There are probably many ailments that could trigger typical ASD behaviors.
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