what's up with all the swearing? this trend of swearing as linkbait is getting pretty lame.
The trend of swearing needlessly is getting a bit old period. Regardless of personal opinions it's not particularly professional…
Working Too Much is Hurting Your Productivity
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
"but you can't blame the author since it seems to work" -> "Profanity can tap into that emotion fairly well." So a formula for getting knee-jerk clicks and votes is to "bait" the user by using language that elicits an emotional response. :)
Exactly, I was agreeing with you.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
The trend of swearing needlessly is getting a bit old period. Regardless of personal opinions it's not particularly professional…
I love swearing. I also actually agree with the OP. It's getting a little old. Some of the presentations I'm seeing really feel a little patronizing linkbait. But you know what I really can't stand? The word professional , used in this context. What does that even mean? I find it such an obnoxious term when used to suggest that the privilege of working comes at the cost of subscribing to some universal etiquette.
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I love swearing. I also actually agree with the OP. It's getting a little old. Some of the presentations I'm seeing really feel a little patronizing linkbait. But you know what I really can't stand? The word professional , used in this context. What does that even mean? I find it such an obnoxious term when used to suggest that the privilege of working comes at the cost of subscribing to some universal etiquette.
Professional = something you'd say in front of your clients / customers / potential employers etc.
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#25what's up with all the swearing? this trend of swearing as linkbait is getting pretty lame.
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#26what's up with all the swearing? this trend of swearing as linkbait is getting pretty lame.
I do think it's relevant to use as it is the title of her talk, as someone else mentioned. I have more of an issue with people who take an issue with swearing. How does a word become a "curse word". It's an arbitrary assignment by society. Regular use of a particular word in a situation with negative emotions that conditions a response when used in conversation again... are we no better than Pavlov's dog? People who…
Not true. We specifically make it a taboo, ie. a word that's not supposed to be said by anyone at any occasion, and after that, from time to time, we brake this taboo. But beware, if you use a swearword too frequently, it will lose its power.
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#27It's amazing how few people get this. I just started a new job and everyone is telling me how much everyone here works. I look at the products we make and the deadlines that are set and they aren't any bigger or more agressive than anywhere else that I worked. It has just always been a part of this companies culture I guess, but I don't see the need to sit in my office for 8 extra hours a week when all I'll end up do…
In many cases, I don't think it has anything to do with employees wanting to be there. The problem I've found is that most managers (and VCs) I've met seem to think that if you aren't devoting your life to your code monastery, you aren't productive and you aren't dedicated. Startups place an enormous amount of value on "ass in seat" time even though sometimes being in the seat isn't often the productive thing to do. There is a horribly mistaken belief that the more you sit at work, the more you get done, and if someone else is sitting there longer than you, they're a "better" employee. It's perception, not reality.
If we really want to go the fuck home, managers need to drastically change what they think "productive" is in a knowledge industry. Writing code is not like being on a factory line. The motions are not repetitive and you are required to be creative. I think I'm as productive in a 30 hour week as I am on a 60 hour one: in the latter case, I'm spending too much time spinning on overhead or burned out and playing Portal.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it's used all the time, it must be easy for you to provide a few examples. I've seen a few cases where a post title used profanity in a way that's arguably unnecessary, but I can't think of any examples of outright linkbaiting.
You mean like this? http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=fuck Perhaps if we narrow it down to titles only: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+...
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#29what's up with all the swearing? this trend of swearing as linkbait is getting pretty lame.
Swearing serves a purpose: to express strong emotion. In this case, the author is expressing that it's really important to take breaks. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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#30In fact, I would prefer a page full of posts with titles that contain 'fuck' rather than an entire page of posts about copycat blogging platforms or 'my weekend project, now app, now "business," made with rails and coffebonemongodb.js'.
Well, that came out of no where.
Time to read the OPs post.
/rant (which was supposed to be in reply to http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3771670)
Edit: I definitely agree with the video and wish everyone worked like that. The part about the managers leading the team by going home on time is true too.