Images and video that goes against the approved government and/or media narratives == 'deepfake' .
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Really? How about not using unofficial channels for statements? I mean, what is new to this problem. Other than it is somewhat cheaper to pair the fake statement with the person responsible reading it out laud. Department press release -> Reuters -> News paper -> reader No signing required. The reader can verify the press release of he wants to.
It is different in my opinion. * Text: You have little (definitive) clue who wrote what. You essentially have to ask the (apparent) writer. * Photo: You used to have high confidence that a picture shows who appears to be shown. Not 100%, sure, but it's high. * Video & Audio: You used to have very high confidence that the video including its audio are genuine. It was very difficult to replace video and/or audio. Nowad…
But that is out of scope of what you are replying to.
If a CFO makes a statement and that is on the company's website we can have reasonable confidence that the CFO made that statement and we can act on it.
Reporting on a video of unknown (possibly unknowable) provenance is a different kettle of fish.
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You have one of the scariest HN bios I have ever read.
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It is different in my opinion. * Text: You have little (definitive) clue who wrote what. You essentially have to ask the (apparent) writer. * Photo: You used to have high confidence that a picture shows who appears to be shown. Not 100%, sure, but it's high. * Video & Audio: You used to have very high confidence that the video including its audio are genuine. It was very difficult to replace video and/or audio. Nowad…
But that is out of scope of what you are replying to. If a CFO makes a statement and that is on the company's website we can have reasonable confidence that the CFO made that statement and we can act on it. Reporting on a video of unknown (possibly unknowable) provenance is a different kettle of fish.
Ah I see, I forgot the topic of this specific comment thread. Political Leaders could also have similar problems though.
Example - Dictator A says terrible things on video/audio. Of course it's not going to be shown on their nations' broadcast website or in media.
How can the rest of the world make sure the video that was recorded is trustworthy?
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#27Entities like CFOs and political leaders will have to start cryptographically signing their statements. There is no practical way to detect fakes after the fact.
The vast majority of uses for deep fakes is not for content that would appear on an official site: surreptitious videos of CEO/Politician doing illegal or embarrassing behaviour, racist tweets and emails from when they were college students etc.
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#28Images and video that goes against the approved government and/or media narratives == 'deepfake' .
No idea why you're being downvoted. Governments the world over propagate disinformation every single day with absolute impunity.
Yesterday I was reading this article about the day the USA almost accidentally nuked itself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash
> The Pentagon claimed at the time that there was no chance of an explosion and that two arming mechanisms had not activated.
> A United States Department of Defense spokesperson stated that the bomb was unarmed and could not explode.
> In 2013, information released as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request confirmed that a single switch out of four (not six) prevented detonation.
Nobody should ever trust a single thing these people say.
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Really? How about not using unofficial channels for statements? I mean, what is new to this problem. Other than it is somewhat cheaper to pair the fake statement with the person responsible reading it out laud. Department press release -> Reuters -> News paper -> reader No signing required. The reader can verify the press release of he wants to.
It is different in my opinion. * Text: You have little (definitive) clue who wrote what. You essentially have to ask the (apparent) writer. * Photo: You used to have high confidence that a picture shows who appears to be shown. Not 100%, sure, but it's high. * Video & Audio: You used to have very high confidence that the video including its audio are genuine. It was very difficult to replace video and/or audio. Nowad…
> Photo: You used to have high confidence that a picture shows who appears to be shown. Not 100%, sure, but it's high.
I don’t agree. Many important photos don’t show what we think they do.
The Soviet flag on The Reichstag. When it was taken and what it showed are different to the impression you get looking at the photo. It was taken after the event and the signs of looting were removed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_a_Flag_over_the_Reic...
The flag raising on Iwo Jima was the second flag raised that day. It’s not quite the same once you know that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima
The famous ‘Falling Soldier’ photo from the Spanish Civil War is now thought to have been faked. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falling_Soldier
There are bound to be loads more, and the faking goes way back. The US Civil War has examples where bodies were dragged around and made more dramatic. Added cannon balls in Crimean War photos etc.
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I think that's a really bad take. The difficulty of making many categories of lies is radically decreasing. That it has long been possible for a well-funded vfx team to do something doesn't mean nothing will change when it becomes possible for anyone with a cellphone and five minutes of free time to do the same thing.
> anyone with a cellphone and five minutes of free time One could argue that this will be a good thing because deep fakes will be so prevalent (e.g. kids making videos of their parents saying and doing funny things) that the default assumption is that everything is fake until proven not fake.
Lower trust societies are better if you enjoy living in a warzone and being oppressed by a tyrannical government.