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Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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The RuneScape Wiki and OldSchool RuneScape Wiki left Fandom in 2018, for similar reasons: https://runescape.wiki/w/Forum:Leaving_Wikia I think the move has been really successful. They've managed to add lots of exciting game-specific features to the wiki, like tracking requirements for a quest, or historical item prices. It also didn't seem to take long for the new wiki results to rank above the Wikia/Fandom results…

Minecraft Wiki moved to the same host as the RuneScape Wikis

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Here's a good summary of controversy surrounding Fandom and why fandoms tend to leave: https://www.koopatv.org/2022/10/why-people-dont-like-fandom-... And it doesn't even really touch on how Fandom, sometimes, refuses to delete the old wiki for traffic purposes, and leaves it up as a "zombie" wiki that smothers the new wiki due to SEO, or the more serious conflicts between some admins and contributors in some other s…

I don't even care about any of that. I care that literally everytime I click a fandom link, I immediately regret it; with my browser coming to a crawl and being forcefed a dozen ads. And even if you tried to ignore them, any interaction immediately triggers some sort of lazy-loaded/interactive ad to take over.

It's one of the worse possible website experiences there is, that isn't actively clickbait or a scam and it's annoying as hell that actual good content continues to flock to that trash platform.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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The WoW wiki is also leaving Fandom. In my experience the Fandom wiki will stay always above the new wiki in google, making this move pointless.

The Path of Exile wiki moved off fandom to https://www.poewiki.net and has been very successful. If I google "path of exile wiki" it's the top result for me (in an anonymous window). The creators of PoE even agreed to host the new wiki. The move to the new wiki was heavily supported by the subreddit for PoE, often pointing people that posted links to the fandom version to the new version. I remember there being guide…

Yugioh wiki also moved to Yugipedia a long time ago. It was a contentious decision at the time but absolutely the right one in hindsight. The obnoxious autoplay videos ads, horrible mobile layout, forced adoption of styles and features all contributed to the decision.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Here's a good summary of controversy surrounding Fandom and why fandoms tend to leave: https://www.koopatv.org/2022/10/why-people-dont-like-fandom-... And it doesn't even really touch on how Fandom, sometimes, refuses to delete the old wiki for traffic purposes, and leaves it up as a "zombie" wiki that smothers the new wiki due to SEO, or the more serious conflicts between some admins and contributors in some other s…

I don't even care about any of that. I care that literally everytime I click a fandom link, I immediately regret it; with my browser coming to a crawl and being forcefed a dozen ads. And even if you tried to ignore them, any interaction immediately triggers some sort of lazy-loaded/interactive ad to take over. It's one of the worse possible website experiences there is, that isn't actively clickbait or a scam and it'…

> I don't even care about any of that.

You care about the quality of the wiki's content though. These kinds of business decisions detract from that.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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>Our new host has better built out infrastructure that makes the site load significantly faster than Fandom, especially in different parts of the world and with slower internet connections

I'm reading this over the ultra-slow[1] airplane satellite wifi. The wiki loaded reasonably quickly. I don't even want to try opening any fandom wiki (it probably wouldn't load at all). Congrats!

I had to search for this information a bit, but looks like the new wiki is powered by MediaWiki. I wonder if there's a market for fandom alternative that would offer easy to onboard instances to various groups (so they don't get locked into fandom early).

[1] Because I bought the cheapest plan, of course.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Here's a good summary of controversy surrounding Fandom and why fandoms tend to leave: https://www.koopatv.org/2022/10/why-people-dont-like-fandom-... And it doesn't even really touch on how Fandom, sometimes, refuses to delete the old wiki for traffic purposes, and leaves it up as a "zombie" wiki that smothers the new wiki due to SEO, or the more serious conflicts between some admins and contributors in some other s…

The side-by-side view in that article is the key user experience reason to leave. The Fandom wiki sites tend to be slow and covered in ads. I avoid them if possible. I'm glad to see more and more groups take their wikis back. The Runescape wikis left Fandom a few years ago. The improvement to quality and features has been massive. I'm not sure how much traffic the Minecraft wiki gets, but the Runescape wikis got over…

> I'm not sure how much traffic the Minecraft wiki gets

A lot. Its the 800lb gorilla of gaming, and it requires a lot of reference to play.

I used to joke that 1/4 of Youtube is Minecraft videos, and I'm not even sure thats a hyperbole.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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The WoW wiki is also leaving Fandom. In my experience the Fandom wiki will stay always above the new wiki in google, making this move pointless.

It's kind of like forking a software project, just the wiki contributions are distributed more broadly compared to software where one or two people do most of the work.

The people contributing matter, but it doesn't matter how many people use the other wiki.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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The WoW wiki is also leaving Fandom. In my experience the Fandom wiki will stay always above the new wiki in google, making this move pointless.

It takes a while, but it can eventually transition. The OSRS wiki seems to have moved above its old fandom wiki for most pages at this point.

Re: Minecraft Wiki has decided to leave Fandom

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Here's a good summary of controversy surrounding Fandom and why fandoms tend to leave: https://www.koopatv.org/2022/10/why-people-dont-like-fandom-... And it doesn't even really touch on how Fandom, sometimes, refuses to delete the old wiki for traffic purposes, and leaves it up as a "zombie" wiki that smothers the new wiki due to SEO, or the more serious conflicts between some admins and contributors in some other s…

I find this site so bloody confusing. I was on here recently while looking up something I was stuck with on Zelda, what a shambles. I got pissed off and left before I found what I was looking for, it just seems like such an incoherent mess
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