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The First Private High Speed Rail Line in 100 Years Will Link Miami and Orlando

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Re: The First Private High Speed Rail Line in 100 Years Will Link Miami and Orlando

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Post by listenallyall »

jdlshore wrote: post #18
listenallyall wrote: post #4

And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?

According to the University of Washington report, high speed rail is in competition with metro-to-metro air travel, which also involves arriving without a car. I don’t know how this particular route rates on that metric, but I do remember that it was one of the routes described in the report. Edit: A quick web search revealed 18 flights from Miami to Orlando tomorrow. That’s presumably 36 flights including the return…

Are you implying the train takes 30 minutes? Miami to Orlando is 3 and a half hours according to Brightline's online schedule.

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Post by jdlshore »

listenallyall wrote: post #21
jdlshore wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the University of Washington report, high speed rail is in competition with metro-to-metro air travel, which also involves arriving without a car. I don’t know how this particular route rates on that metric, but I do remember that it was one of the routes described in the report. Edit: A quick web search revealed 18 flights from Miami to Orlando tomorrow. That’s presumably 36 flights including the return…

Are you implying the train takes 30 minutes? Miami to Orlando is 3 and a half hours according to Brightline's online schedule.

I misread it. The article says “30 min less than driving,” but I read it as “30 min.” Airplanes take 60-90 min, not counting boarding etc.

Re: The First Private High Speed Rail Line in 100 Years Will Link Miami and Orlando

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Post by chrisco255 »

listenallyall wrote: post #16
chrisco255 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disney and Universal shuttles run to many major hotels in Orlando. Uber is always an option too.

Very few people stay exclusively within the Disney-verse the entire trip, for every meal. I-Drive, Sea World, Convention Center. And no, Disney does not run shuttles from Universal's hotels, nor vice versa.

The shuttles are run by the hotels themselves, and yes they run to both parks and I-Drive is right next to Universal.

Re: The First Private High Speed Rail Line in 100 Years Will Link Miami and Orlando

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Post by listenallyall »

chrisco255 wrote: post #23
listenallyall wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very few people stay exclusively within the Disney-verse the entire trip, for every meal. I-Drive, Sea World, Convention Center. And no, Disney does not run shuttles from Universal's hotels, nor vice versa.

The shuttles are run by the hotels themselves, and yes they run to both parks and I-Drive is right next to Universal.

Lol, International Drive is miles long, most of which is quite far from Universal. And you're claiming there is a shuttle from Disney's Contemporary to Universal? I don't think so. From a Marriott somewhere, sure, but then you aren't within the bounds of either park and will always need a shuttle.

Please tell me how many families from Miami or Ft Lauderdale you expect will voluntarily leave their car at home and take a train instead, knowing they will be reliant on hotel shuttles and Uber the whole time?

Re: The First Private High Speed Rail Line in 100 Years Will Link Miami and Orlando

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Post by chrisco255 »

listenallyall wrote: post #24
chrisco255 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The shuttles are run by the hotels themselves, and yes they run to both parks and I-Drive is right next to Universal.

Lol, International Drive is miles long, most of which is quite far from Universal. And you're claiming there is a shuttle from Disney's Contemporary to Universal? I don't think so. From a Marriott somewhere, sure, but then you aren't within the bounds of either park and will always need a shuttle. Please tell me how many families from Miami or Ft Lauderdale you expect will voluntarily leave their car at home and take…

Seriously? Riding an Uber from Universal to a restaurant in I-drive would take $10-15, a paltry fee. You'll spend that much on soda for two at the theme parks.

Of course a Disney owned hotel is not going to offer complementary shuttle access to Universal. Meanwhile a Hyatt or Hilton or Gaylord or Rosen or any number of dozens of large hotel chains in the area absolutely run shuttles to both parks.

I've driven from Miami to Orlando many times, it sucks and it takes up 4 to 5 hours each way. Way more relaxing to spend it on a train. Many families will fork out for it.

Re: The First Private High Speed Rail Line in 100 Years Will Link Miami and Orlando

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Post by listenallyall »

chrisco255 wrote: post #25
listenallyall wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol, International Drive is miles long, most of which is quite far from Universal. And you're claiming there is a shuttle from Disney's Contemporary to Universal? I don't think so. From a Marriott somewhere, sure, but then you aren't within the bounds of either park and will always need a shuttle. Please tell me how many families from Miami or Ft Lauderdale you expect will voluntarily leave their car at home and take…

Seriously? Riding an Uber from Universal to a restaurant in I-drive would take $10-15, a paltry fee. You'll spend that much on soda for two at the theme parks. Of course a Disney owned hotel is not going to offer complementary shuttle access to Universal. Meanwhile a Hyatt or Hilton or Gaylord or Rosen or any number of dozens of large hotel chains in the area absolutely run shuttles to both parks. I've driven from Mi…

Double that, because both ways. Add more, because many families require an XL Uber or a special one equipped with car seats for kids. And what if they aren't staying at a Universal hotel, a Disney hotel or something further away. You are minimizing the hassles and the issues and the cost, and the misery of being forced to adhere to shuttle schedules all day every day.

Re: The First Private High Speed Rail Line in 100 Years Will Link Miami and Orlando

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Post by egberts1 »

tempsy wrote: post #14
egberts1 wrote: post #9

This route has a higher chance of completion than the infamous SF-LA route.

it's completed. service is starting today.

Yeah, only the planning is supposedly completed.

2030 is the current but ever-so-elusive shifty goal post.

https://hsr.ca.gov/about/project-update-reports/2023-project...

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