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Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by RetroTechie »

Found in a thrift store recently:

An AC cord, 3-pin (earthed) plugs on both ends, with 2-conductor wiring in between. Spotted 'cause cable was damaged. Even the cable itself carried markings like "3x 0.75mm^2" despite having 2 conductors in it.

This was a one-piece cable (with 'non-replaceable' plugs), so came like that out of the factory. Covered in all the usual certification / safety markings.

Yes... Chinese made. And certainly not a mistake but intentional deception + cost cutting.

I know, many Chinese manufacturers just don't care, and will produce whatever [someone] tells them to produce.

But BOY, how much I would have loved to have a word with manufacturer person in charge of that production run, and question their ethics. And maybe beat 'em up or something.

"You don't care about (potentially) life-or-death safety of random person using YOUR cord? If found by someone with authority, ENTIRE batch of such cords will be recalled, with you or your customer footing the bill, and you don't care about that either?"

I really have a hard time grasping the level of negligence displayed there. And "sorry I had no idea" doesn't apply - you're an AC cable manufacturer, for f%#! sake.

Sadly it's 100% certain such deadly-accident-waiting-to-happen products are commonplace out there. I've got more examples from personal experience alone.

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by GordonS »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #16
GordonS wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holy shit, how the hell did this ever become a product?! Absolute insanity.

Any parent probably invented the equivalent of one within the first six months of their kid being born - but I guess this is one of those things that are bloody obvious and desired, but not supposed to ever become products, like pacifiers on an elastic band.

> Any parent probably invented the equivalent of one within the first six months of their kid being born

What?! No! (and yes, I'm a parent)

I don't detect any sarcasm in your post, but this is such an obviously dangerous idea that surely you can't possibly be serious?

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by jstanley »

codeulike wrote: post #6

omg the baby self feeding pillows edit: loads of them https://ec.europa.eu/safety-gate-alerts/screen/webReport/ale... I suppose they have had to really scale up the testing/alert system in the last decade or so due to influx of millions of new products

I mean this is obviously a bad idea, but:

> During self-feeding, the baby is not able to control the flow of fluid. The fluid will continue to flow even if the baby is not swallowing. This may lead to choking.

Eh? Nothing comes out of the bottle if the baby isn't suckling. The baby is able to control the flow of fluid very easily.

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by TeMPOraL »

GordonS wrote: post #22
TeMPOraL wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any parent probably invented the equivalent of one within the first six months of their kid being born - but I guess this is one of those things that are bloody obvious and desired, but not supposed to ever become products, like pacifiers on an elastic band.

> Any parent probably invented the equivalent of one within the first six months of their kid being born What?! No! (and yes, I'm a parent) I don't detect any sarcasm in your post, but this is such an obviously dangerous idea that surely you can't possibly be serious?

I wasn't clear enough: I meant invented only, conceptually, not actually deployed.

My wife and I joked many times this should be a thing, but we would never have actually bought one, because it's clearly insane.

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by jiofj »

jstanley wrote: post #23
codeulike wrote: post #6

omg the baby self feeding pillows edit: loads of them https://ec.europa.eu/safety-gate-alerts/screen/webReport/ale... I suppose they have had to really scale up the testing/alert system in the last decade or so due to influx of millions of new products

I mean this is obviously a bad idea, but: > During self-feeding, the baby is not able to control the flow of fluid. The fluid will continue to flow even if the baby is not swallowing. This may lead to choking. Eh? Nothing comes out of the bottle if the baby isn't suckling. The baby is able to control the flow of fluid very easily.

If you pinch the rubber tip (or chew on it) gravity will make fluid come out even if you don't suck.

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by lultimouomo »

RetroTechie wrote: post #21

Found in a thrift store recently: An AC cord, 3-pin (earthed) plugs on both ends, with 2-conductor wiring in between. Spotted 'cause cable was damaged. Even the cable itself carried markings like "3x 0.75mm^2" despite having 2 conductors in it. This was a one-piece cable (with 'non-replaceable' plugs), so came like that out of the factory. Covered in all the usual certification / safety markings. Yes... Chinese made.…

> An AC cord, 3-pin (earthed) plugs on both ends

You mean it had PLUGS on both end? That's not a cable, that's a murder attempt!

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by thomond »

RetroTechie wrote: post #21

Found in a thrift store recently: An AC cord, 3-pin (earthed) plugs on both ends, with 2-conductor wiring in between. Spotted 'cause cable was damaged. Even the cable itself carried markings like "3x 0.75mm^2" despite having 2 conductors in it. This was a one-piece cable (with 'non-replaceable' plugs), so came like that out of the factory. Covered in all the usual certification / safety markings. Yes... Chinese made.…

What country/continent was this?

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by mikestew »

lultimouomo wrote: post #26
RetroTechie wrote: post #21

Found in a thrift store recently: An AC cord, 3-pin (earthed) plugs on both ends, with 2-conductor wiring in between. Spotted 'cause cable was damaged. Even the cable itself carried markings like "3x 0.75mm^2" despite having 2 conductors in it. This was a one-piece cable (with 'non-replaceable' plugs), so came like that out of the factory. Covered in all the usual certification / safety markings. Yes... Chinese made.…

> An AC cord, 3-pin (earthed) plugs on both ends You mean it had PLUGS on both end? That's not a cable, that's a murder attempt!

Plugs? Sure, with one end female and one end male. I assume you’re thinking of male on both ends (which, yes, should not be sold), but that’s not necessarily the case.

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by RetroTechie »

lultimouomo wrote: post #26
RetroTechie wrote: post #21

Found in a thrift store recently: An AC cord, 3-pin (earthed) plugs on both ends, with 2-conductor wiring in between. Spotted 'cause cable was damaged. Even the cable itself carried markings like "3x 0.75mm^2" despite having 2 conductors in it. This was a one-piece cable (with 'non-replaceable' plugs), so came like that out of the factory. Covered in all the usual certification / safety markings. Yes... Chinese made.…

> An AC cord, 3-pin (earthed) plugs on both ends You mean it had PLUGS on both end? That's not a cable, that's a murder attempt!

No just regular male + female plugs. If not damaged, would look okay in all respects.

That was in the NL. Probably grey import, sold at flea markets, eBay / AliExpress purchase or similar. Doubtful such cords would pass under the radar of say, HP or the like. Then again, you never know. ;-)

Re: Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

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Post by qwerty456127 »

fabian2k wrote: post #19
qwerty456127 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People mistakenly consider that food and some corporations support this misconception to exploit it for profit. Some people mistakenly consider silicagel food as well (there would be no need to write "do not eat" on it if nobody did) but this doesn't mean it actually is food. Some even say cocaine is a vitamin. There are many substances which occur in our bodies naturally and play important roles in its functioning b…

Sugar is clearly food, it is easily metabolized and used for energy by our body. Sure it's not healthy in excess, but it is without a doubt food.

What about erythritol? Is it food? It is not metabolized and not used for anything in our body.
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