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Re: Data accidentally exposed by Microsoft AI researchers

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Post by numbsafari »

munchler wrote: post #13

> This case is an example of the new risks organizations face when starting to leverage the power of AI more broadly, as more of their engineers now work with massive amounts of training data. It seems like a stretch to associate this risk with AI specifically. The era of "big data" started several years before the current AI boom.

This is the risk of using, checks notes, Azure and working with Microsoft.

Except there is no risk for them. They've proven time and again they have major security snafus and not be held accountable.

Re: Data accidentally exposed by Microsoft AI researchers

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Post by monkpit »

hdesh wrote: post #9

On a lighter note - I saw a chat message that started with "Hey dude! How is it going". I'm disappointed that the response was not https://nohello.net/en/ .

I strongly support the “no hello” concept but I also fear being seen as “that guy” so I never mention it. Sigh

Re: Data accidentally exposed by Microsoft AI researchers

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Post by aftbit »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #12
buro9 wrote: post #5

Part of me thought "this is fine as very few could actually download 38TB". But that's not true as it's just so cheap to spin up a machine and some storage on a Cloud provider and deal with it later. It's also not true as I've got a 1Gbps internet connection and 112TB usable in my local NAS. All of a sudden (over a decade) all the numbers got big and massive data exfiltration just looks to be trivial. I mean, obvious…

How do you have your NAS configured? The more specifics, the better; I’ve wanted one. Do you worry about failure? In your hardware life I mean, not your personal life.

Not the OP but I have a pair of Chenbro NR12000 1U rack mount servers, bought for about $120 each on eBay a few years ago. Each has 12 internal 3.5" mounting points and 14 SATA cables. In one server, I have 12 4TB used enterprise drives. In the other, I have 12 8TB drives. Both have 16 GB of RAM (should probably be more) and two 2.5" SATA SSDs. They are configured with two ZFS raidz1 vdevs, each made up of 6 disks. This gives me 10 usable disks and 2 used for parity, and the ability to survive at least one failure but maybe two (if I'm lucky).

I back up critical data from the 80TB NAS to the 40TB NAS, and the most critical data gets backed up nightly to a single hard drive in my friend's NAS box (offsite). Twice a year, I back up the full thing to external hard drives and take them out of state to a different friend's house.

Don't worry, be happy.

Re: Data accidentally exposed by Microsoft AI researchers

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Post by darknavi »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #12
buro9 wrote: post #5

Part of me thought "this is fine as very few could actually download 38TB". But that's not true as it's just so cheap to spin up a machine and some storage on a Cloud provider and deal with it later. It's also not true as I've got a 1Gbps internet connection and 112TB usable in my local NAS. All of a sudden (over a decade) all the numbers got big and massive data exfiltration just looks to be trivial. I mean, obvious…

How do you have your NAS configured? The more specifics, the better; I’ve wanted one. Do you worry about failure? In your hardware life I mean, not your personal life.

Unraid is a pretty friendly OS with easy disk adoption and nice gui for managing docker containers.

You can have up to two disks of redundancy (dual parity) per drive pool.

Re: Data accidentally exposed by Microsoft AI researchers

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Post by NikolaNovak »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #12
buro9 wrote: post #5

Part of me thought "this is fine as very few could actually download 38TB". But that's not true as it's just so cheap to spin up a machine and some storage on a Cloud provider and deal with it later. It's also not true as I've got a 1Gbps internet connection and 112TB usable in my local NAS. All of a sudden (over a decade) all the numbers got big and massive data exfiltration just looks to be trivial. I mean, obvious…

How do you have your NAS configured? The more specifics, the better; I’ve wanted one. Do you worry about failure? In your hardware life I mean, not your personal life.

Not the OP, but after a lot of messing with software software and OS RAID, Raid Cards and mother boards, dedicated loud Dell servers, UnRAID, this that and the other thing over years and decades, I just set up a big Synology device 5 years ago. Since then, I've had a NAS that just worked. I have data, it's there.

I do online backup to a cloud provider, and a monthly dump to external USB drives that I keep and rotate at my mother in law's house (off site:).

More than any technical advice, I'd strongly urge you to check and understand honestly whether you're looking for "NAS" (a place to seamlessly store data) or "a project" (something to spend fun and frustrating and exciting evening and weekend time configuring, upgrading, troubleshooting, changing, re-designing, replacing, blogging, etc). Nothing wrong with either, just ensure you pick the path you actually want :->

Re: Data accidentally exposed by Microsoft AI researchers

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Post by syndicatedjelly »

hdesh wrote: post #9

On a lighter note - I saw a chat message that started with "Hey dude! How is it going". I'm disappointed that the response was not https://nohello.net/en/ .

I love that an entire website was made around this, without any attempt to sell me anything. So rare to see that these days

Re: Data accidentally exposed by Microsoft AI researchers

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Post by hahn-kev »

hdesh wrote: post #9

On a lighter note - I saw a chat message that started with "Hey dude! How is it going". I'm disappointed that the response was not https://nohello.net/en/ .

Glad I've never had to deal with that in chat.

Though I have had the equivalent in tech support: "App doesn't work" which is basically just hello, obviously you're having an issue otherwise you wouldn't have contacted our support.

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