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Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by jack_pp »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #13
wincy wrote: post #4

It was definitely an interesting article but the first sentence of the article proper really grabbed me. The weird thing to me about the world is you can have an event that literally millions of people watch around the world, and if you had asked me “what’s the International” five minutes ago I wouldn’t have had any idea, and I’m a very online person! I play video games, even, and at one point played DOTA2! The inter…

Thing is, millions aren't what they used to be! with world population at just over 8 billion, the viewership of 2 million makes it pretty obscure. World cup final had 1.5 Bil viewers apparently (TIL).

Well, can't really compare a fairly complex computer game where you need to actively play in order to even understand the stream with a.. checks Wikipedia.. 2000 year old game with simple enough rules that you can watch without any knowledge.

Football also has the advantage of a fixed rule set. I've played over 4000 hours of dota in my life but none in the last 12 months. I've tried watching it on twitch and the map layout changed, probably new heroes were added or old heroes changed..

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by december456 »

kzrdude wrote: post #14

Unfortunately, they serve a machine translated version of the blog text. Well, I don't even know. The language is technically correct I guess, but completely without life and using expressions that one would use in english. That's not bad for an automatic translation.

You sure about the machine part? While a surprise, it was one of the better localizations i have experienced in the world wide web.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by raincole »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #13
wincy wrote: post #4

It was definitely an interesting article but the first sentence of the article proper really grabbed me. The weird thing to me about the world is you can have an event that literally millions of people watch around the world, and if you had asked me “what’s the International” five minutes ago I wouldn’t have had any idea, and I’m a very online person! I play video games, even, and at one point played DOTA2! The inter…

Thing is, millions aren't what they used to be! with world population at just over 8 billion, the viewership of 2 million makes it pretty obscure. World cup final had 1.5 Bil viewers apparently (TIL).

By Joel Spolsky: when I say "no one" I mean less than 10 million people.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by VoidWhisperer »

lijok wrote: post #9

This is a great article and I understand the need for the booths, but to me personally, they look horrible. It looks as if the players are sitting in a kiosk. Surely it would make for a much more enveloping experience for the spectators if the players were in an open space.

According to the article, they tried this this past year and unfortunately weren't able to get the sound dampening up to an acceptable standard, so for the time being they are going back to the booths

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by CyberRage »

ateng wrote: post #20

Could you delay the large screens, commentaries, and live broadcast by 3-5 seconds (or more) such that any information gained from leaked noise would have minimal impact to the players? This would make ANS headphones viable

some information can be viable for longer than that, there are some extreme cases where 2~3 minutes would not suffice

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by VoidWhisperer »

leetrout wrote: post #2

Actual title: "Between the Lanes: The Sound (Proof Booths) of Silence" Is this actually by Valve employees? Or just with Valve's funding?

According to the text under the first image:

"... a blog feature where we let members of our development team walk through some of the challenges, bugfixes, and occasional happy accidents we encounter while working on a game as unique as Dota, and an event as unique as The International."

It appears to be from their team's experiences with setting up 'The International' up till now

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by donatj »

I don’t really get esports or regular sports for that matter, but this seems like overkill? How much of an advantage could they really get from someone yelling at them in the audience? With a decent audience they are rarely going to hear anything other than a din anyway.

Doesn’t seem like much more of an advantage than people yelling things at baseball players?

Seems like it could just be part of the calculation of the competition rather than working so hard to avoid it.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by jon-wood »

wincy wrote: post #4

It was definitely an interesting article but the first sentence of the article proper really grabbed me. The weird thing to me about the world is you can have an event that literally millions of people watch around the world, and if you had asked me “what’s the International” five minutes ago I wouldn’t have had any idea, and I’m a very online person! I play video games, even, and at one point played DOTA2! The inter…

Everyone being in different sub-cultures doesn’t mean people have nothing to talk about, it makes conversation way more interesting if you’re just willing to step out of your bubble for a bit. Some of the best pub conversations I’ve had have been chatting to someone about things I’d never even heard of until that moment, and finding out about fun niches that I’d probably still not know about otherwise.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by Forge36 »

donatj wrote: post #27

I don’t really get esports or regular sports for that matter, but this seems like overkill? How much of an advantage could they really get from someone yelling at them in the audience? With a decent audience they are rarely going to hear anything other than a din anyway. Doesn’t seem like much more of an advantage than people yelling things at baseball players? Seems like it could just be part of the calculation of t…

Enough to give pause. In StarCraft there was a trap set and a fan favorite was about to walk right into it. The audience went wild. And then he stopped all units, and retreated. When interviewed he said he'd stopped because the audience went wild when they shouldn't have. (They cleared the stadium for the next match)

Baseball isn't a game of hidden knowledge. The audience mood can give away details about the other team.

Think poker. If another player bluffed and the audience gasps, you know something notable happened.

Re: The Sound Proof Booths of Silence

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Post by [deleted] »

jack_pp wrote: post #21
NikolaNovak wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thing is, millions aren't what they used to be! with world population at just over 8 billion, the viewership of 2 million makes it pretty obscure. World cup final had 1.5 Bil viewers apparently (TIL).

Well, can't really compare a fairly complex computer game where you need to actively play in order to even understand the stream with a.. checks Wikipedia.. 2000 year old game with simple enough rules that you can watch without any knowledge. Football also has the advantage of a fixed rule set. I've played over 4000 hours of dota in my life but none in the last 12 months. I've tried watching it on twitch and the map…

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