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Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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A service that exists to enable piracy is banning piracy? Good luck :P This is like when OnlyFans tried to ban porn. Just close up shop then. I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans.

> I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans. Strange, I have been using it for years to stream my own movie collection (ripped by me from my own DVDs) to my chromecasts and phones.

But Plex exists to share it with your friends which makes it piracy. It's their added value over something like Kodi.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#23

https://jellyfin.org/

I've given this a legitimate shot two times, both self-hosting and via a professional host and both times on I have massive streaming problems on a 1 gig connection.

It, on paper, has competitive features to Plex but Plex streams almost as reliably as Netflix does.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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> Got it. So they want to show the lawyers that they’re doing something to “combat piracy” even though they know it will do absolutely nothing and result in a bunch of pissed off legitimate customers. What would be a better solution, legitimately? Plex is ripe for lawsuits from media giants in every corner of the world, so even if their software isn’t illegal, they’re always going to have a target on their back and e…

Are there any new efforts to build an open source plex alternative? I know about Kodi, but it has its own glaring issues.

Seems like Emby and Jellyfin are the two most common alternatives.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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A service that exists to enable piracy is banning piracy? Good luck :P This is like when OnlyFans tried to ban porn. Just close up shop then. I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans.

eh, I am not using it for piracy; I just like the convenience of streaming services. So my plex library is all blurays, DVDs and a handful of VHS’s that have been digitally encoded.

However, availability of bluray for new titles seems to be waning. so I can imagine many who use plex like I do will turn to piracy soon.

I’m weird though and prefer to own my stuff, I hate renting and especially I hate services which rent an entire library at once and lock it out completely without me paying arbitrarily. Feels like they are landlords of media, instead of constructors.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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A service that exists to enable piracy is banning piracy? Good luck :P This is like when OnlyFans tried to ban porn. Just close up shop then. I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans.

> I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans. Strange, I have been using it for years to stream my own movie collection (ripped by me from my own DVDs) to my chromecasts and phones.

I have too and I 100% agree that there is a strong non-piracy use-case for Plex. However if you browse the reddit r/Plex sub it's shocking the percent of people not only using it for piracy but also working to build their own user bases - I can't tell if they receive payment or not. I've seen many posts with people lamenting the behaviors of their end users, numerous with people asking for recommendations on request systems (where end users can request content) and even a few - I kid you not - complaining that they invited random people to use their Plex server but did not receive a response or were treated poorly when the end user (that term again) used it. All that is to say...I think many people are mis-using Plex

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans. Strange, I have been using it for years to stream my own movie collection (ripped by me from my own DVDs) to my chromecasts and phones.

But Plex exists to share it with your friends which makes it piracy. It's their added value over something like Kodi.

sharing with friends isn't actually piracy.

Where did you get that notion?

You can invite friends over to watch a movie with you, you can lend a movie too. Copyright law has fuzzy carve outs for this.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#28
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A service that exists to enable piracy is banning piracy? Good luck :P This is like when OnlyFans tried to ban porn. Just close up shop then. I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans.

> I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans. Strange, I have been using it for years to stream my own movie collection (ripped by me from my own DVDs) to my chromecasts and phones.

Technically that's still illegal in the US. Breaking DVD encryption is not legal, so ripping them is not legal.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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A service that exists to enable piracy is banning piracy? Good luck :P This is like when OnlyFans tried to ban porn. Just close up shop then. I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans.

I'd love to have a modern interface to my collection of legally acquired DVDs and BluRays and so on. It's pretty absurd that such a thing doesn't exist already. This isn't meaningfully "piracy" despite whatever the DMCA (and other laws our masters at the MPAA may have handed down to us) may say.

Couldn't agree more, but this is why we don't have nice things. The digitizing of DVDs we lawfully own isn't legal.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#30

https://jellyfin.org/

How effective is Jellyfin as an alternative? When I tried it un the past it still had some rough edges (especially the app)

It’s workable, but not as nice. I switched back.
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