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American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Post by lotsofpulp »

brianjking wrote: post #19
bitcharmer wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a few links if you've spent the last few years under a rock: Wikipedia page on fatal incidents in UK alone: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in... Two minutes worth of googling: Children: 5-month old and 2 year old https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tragic-pit-bull-attack-cla... 26 day old infant https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-mother-charged-pit-bull-m... 4 year old attacked, mom di…

So where is the statistical evidence that says this is due to any given breed? Correlation does not equal causation.

>Can we ban all humans as a few humans have killed someone?

Most societies give humans more rights than other animals.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Post by throwaway290 »

brianjking wrote: post #19
bitcharmer wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a few links if you've spent the last few years under a rock: Wikipedia page on fatal incidents in UK alone: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in... Two minutes worth of googling: Children: 5-month old and 2 year old https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tragic-pit-bull-attack-cla... 26 day old infant https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-mother-charged-pit-bull-m... 4 year old attacked, mom di…

So where is the statistical evidence that says this is due to any given breed? Correlation does not equal causation.

Your turn. Citations for deaths by other breeds. Let's see them.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Post by fakedang »

Just like a human or a family of humans destined to be and wired like killers and assassin's (a la the Hashashin), so too are dogs, if not more. Pitbulls are way too aggressive to be kept as ordinary pets and I don't mind if they're wiped out of existence by eradicating their breeding. Fuck pitbulls, except for that Red One which raps.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Post by lotsofpulp »

sky_rw wrote: post #20
Buttons840 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's skip the emotionally charged words like "evil". Do you believe some breads are more likely (statistically speaking) to kill a human than others?

I will never stop finding it hilarious how quickly progressives run to racial crime statistics and hold demographic breakdowns of violence sacrosanct when it comes to dogs breeds.

There is no contradiction if you do not think a dog should have the same rights as a human.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Post by brianjking »

fakedang wrote: post #23

Just like a human or a family of humans destined to be and wired like killers and assassin's (a la the Hashashin), so too are dogs, if not more. Pitbulls are way too aggressive to be kept as ordinary pets and I don't mind if they're wiped out of existence by eradicating their breeding. Fuck pitbulls, except for that Red One which raps.

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Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Post by more_corn »

mock-possum wrote: post #3

Small dogs are more aggressive, big dogs can do more damage. Ultimately, it’s a matter of training - how are they raised? - and a matter of the owner maintaining control. I really don’t believe in the whole “some breeds are inherently evil” thing.

Dogs are a great example of breeding behavior in. Dogs with a hunting lineage will point spontaneously. Dogs bred for fighting and attack will fight and attack. Go try into pet a chow. I guarantee it will snap at you if you are not known friendly. Because we bred them as guard dogs and that behavior is literally passed on genetically.

Think that’s impossible? Ask a dog breeder. It’s possible, it’s practiced.

Go find that video of the guy stealing a bike and the house golden coming up for belly runs.

Dog breeds have different behaviors that we’ve deliberately bred into them.

It’s not the dog’s fault. It’s our fault. And our responsibility.

Claiming that it’s not real in the face of evidence is an example of dangerous, willful ignorance.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Post by bitcharmer »

brianjking wrote: post #25
fakedang wrote: post #23

Just like a human or a family of humans destined to be and wired like killers and assassin's (a la the Hashashin), so too are dogs, if not more. Pitbulls are way too aggressive to be kept as ordinary pets and I don't mind if they're wiped out of existence by eradicating their breeding. Fuck pitbulls, except for that Red One which raps.

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I just gave you a whole tonne in a different thread but I'm starting to suspect no amount of evidence will satisfy you.

Re: American bully XL dogs to be banned, Sunak says

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Post by throwaway290 »

sky_rw wrote: post #20
Buttons840 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's skip the emotionally charged words like "evil". Do you believe some breads are more likely (statistically speaking) to kill a human than others?

I will never stop finding it hilarious how quickly progressives run to racial crime statistics and hold demographic breakdowns of violence sacrosanct when it comes to dogs breeds.

With humans, we first thought "let's give all people equal rights" and then "let's stop discriminating against people who used to not have those rights", not the other way around...

Can't believe I need to remind you, but humans still actually own dogs, like property. And wait till you hear what some humans do to other animals and sea creatures. Apparently humanity collectively decided it will not treat animals like humans so here we are. If you go vegan and propose a plan to ban all that injustice maybe some will agree with you. But otherwise there's much worse stuff than "dog racial crime statistics" to think about, stuff we do to animals that don't even murder us unlike these dogs

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