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iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by ojosilva »

input_sh wrote: post #5

How does the author make the logical leap from "it'll use Type C" to "it'll have Samsung DeX equivalent"? I think it's too much of a gimmick for Apple to even try, plus Apple is really not known for giving a damn about making their products work well with third-party peripherals.

The article mentions that iPhone Pro and Pro Max will have a Thunderbolt port. A Thunderbolt 4 port means double the speed of USB-C, 40Gbps instead of 20Gbps. There's plenty of powerful and legacy hardware that runs on Thunderbolt, like dual 4k monitors, so basically it's about hooking up an assortment of peripherals to an iPhone via docking stations, hubs or bare Thunderbolt. The only limitation is what you can do with iOS as a desktop OS today, but if/whenever macOS and iOS merge (with the help of Apple silicon I infer), we could see a new shift in portable workstation paradigms from laptop to phone. Even though some of it is possible today it's not there yet. Just like with cameras, books, tv sets, the iPhone won't replace "computers" per-se but has the potential to carve a nice niche in portable workstations.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by criddell »

rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

I don't know what DeX is, but if by thin client you mean the computer is somewhere else then I would say that doesn't sound like Apple at all. Apple is the last company that seems to still believe in personal computers on the desk.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by _ea1k »

input_sh wrote: post #5

How does the author make the logical leap from "it'll use Type C" to "it'll have Samsung DeX equivalent"? I think it's too much of a gimmick for Apple to even try, plus Apple is really not known for giving a damn about making their products work well with third-party peripherals.

As much as I want to like things like dex, I always find myself thinking that the real world application isn't really any better than carrying around a laptop.

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Post by Spooky23 »

rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

Nobody really wants that feature. It’s too niche, even among enterprise customers.

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Post by xwdv »

As a computer enthusiast I don’t want a desktop in my pocket. I want big heavy rigs, that simply have to be big to do the kind of computing I want to do. I’m not looking for a thin client.

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Post by runako »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #18
rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

See also: cellular Apple Watch unable to make calls/texts without being tethered (over an Internet connection, remotely!) to an iPhone.

This doesn't match my experience using Apple Watch.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by kayodelycaon »

ojosilva wrote: post #21
input_sh wrote: post #5

How does the author make the logical leap from "it'll use Type C" to "it'll have Samsung DeX equivalent"? I think it's too much of a gimmick for Apple to even try, plus Apple is really not known for giving a damn about making their products work well with third-party peripherals.

The article mentions that iPhone Pro and Pro Max will have a Thunderbolt port. A Thunderbolt 4 port means double the speed of USB-C, 40Gbps instead of 20Gbps. There's plenty of powerful and legacy hardware that runs on Thunderbolt, like dual 4k monitors, so basically it's about hooking up an assortment of peripherals to an iPhone via docking stations, hubs or bare Thunderbolt. The only limitation is what you can do w…

Some iPads already have thunderbolt ports. I think any advancement in hardware integration would happen there before it happens in iPhones.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by endisneigh »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #18
rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

See also: cellular Apple Watch unable to make calls/texts without being tethered (over an Internet connection, remotely!) to an iPhone.

Cellular Apple Watches can make phone calls even if your iPhone is turned off.

You do, however, need an iPhone to initially setup an Apple Watch, even the cellular version.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by edgyquant »

nsonha wrote: post #19
tapoxi wrote: post #15

>An iPhone that’s able to project something more like iPadOS (or, ideally, but not definitely wishful thinking on my part — macOS) when connected to a screen could easily replace a laptop for probably a significant portion of the population, including for casual computing, and for the work tasks of the bulk of the knowledge workforce. No, it wouldn't, because you'd need a display and input device(s) at your destinati…

The problem is having too many devices. Most people should just need a phone that can also serve as a personal computer. A personal laptop is a hassle, remember we already have a work computer provided by our employers

> remember we already have a work computer provided by our employers

What a ridiculous and privileged thing to say. Most people do not, in fact, have a computer provided by their employer.

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