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New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Yea let's also convict people using Occam's Razor. "What's all the fuzz about? The dude was near the murder site at the time, it's obvious it was him, duh"

What point do you think you are making here? Nobody suggested doing that.

Point being why should we shove the whole thing under the rug with a lazy conclusion when it's still clearly possible that something more nefarious was going on back then than we may know?

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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> Landis saw and did something that he has kept secret for six decades, he says now. He claims he spotted a bullet resting on the top of the back of the seat. He says he picked it up, put it in his pocket, and brought it into the hospital. Then, upon entering Trauma Room No. 1 (at that stage, he was the only nonmedical person in the room besides Mrs. Kennedy, and both stayed for only a short period), he insists, he p…

Crazy that he chose to keep this secret for six decades. I wonder what possible reason he could have to bring it up now. Hmm, hmm, hmm.

Well, JFK’s nephew is running for president.

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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> Landis saw and did something that he has kept secret for six decades, he says now. He claims he spotted a bullet resting on the top of the back of the seat. He says he picked it up, put it in his pocket, and brought it into the hospital. Then, upon entering Trauma Room No. 1 (at that stage, he was the only nonmedical person in the room besides Mrs. Kennedy, and both stayed for only a short period), he insists, he p…

Crazy that he chose to keep this secret for six decades. I wonder what possible reason he could have to bring it up now. Hmm, hmm, hmm.

> Crazy that he chose to keep this secret for six decades. I wonder what possible reason he could have to bring it up now. Hmm, hmm, hmm.

Maybe because he's 88 years old and likely to die soon? More or less a deathbed confession.

Consider that Watergate's "Deep Throat" Mark Felt only came forward at age 91.

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Occam's Razor says that the guy framed to be the fall guy on this literal world changing event was killed mere ours after the fact on live television, "ending the story". It's amazing that people in 2023 can be just as accepting of the mainstream narrative as the average joes in the 60s, that were subjected to a top down narrative decided by the powers that be using 3 TV channels and 2 newspapers.

How did killing Oswald end the story? You bringing it up proves that it only inflamed the issue and made it more attractive to conspiratorial readings!

In my town, there are "sudden killings" of let's say a particular person. No reason why they would be killed or they were a particular target, but everyone is saying " there is no reason to kill this person".

The authorities, in the coming weeks, months do a "shootout" where another person is killed and they declare "in an operation today, we killed the perpetrator of the previous killing. Case closed".

No one is arrested, no suspect is made public before the second shooting and no one asks why no due process was followed.

Its like clockwork and we can count out such instances in more than 2 dozen in the past 20 years if not less.

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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The problem with conversations about this topic and similar topics (9/11) is that almost no-one who cares about the topic deeply enough to have an argument about it online is interested because they're just super into ballistics and forensics and don't care about the political implications. It's all motivated reasoning because they don't like the _implications_ of the official story for whatever reason (or, alternatively, the conspiratorial reading), or they're selling something to the people who don't like the official story (or the conspiracy).

You think you're having an argument with someone about the facts and what you're actually doing is having a conversation with someone who is deeply invested in defending their _entire world view_ which means they just can't accept whatever argument you're trying to make. You can go after each argument they make and dispense with them in turn, and they'll continue to invent new ones -- for decades if they have to. It's like trying to argue with a christian fundamentalist about the logical impossibilities of noah's ark. And it really doesn't matter _who is right_. Nobody is going to be arguing in good faith about it. Probably if you're about to comment on this post, you've got some motivated reasoning behind it that has nothing to do with finding out what really happened.

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

#28

I don't know why people are so obsessed with this conspiracy theory. Occam's Razor says it was Oswald. Why invest time speculating and arguing over it when there is no way to verify anything? This new revelation doesn't change anything, it's just hearsay.

Occam's Razor says that the guy framed to be the fall guy on this literal world changing event was killed mere ours after the fact on live television, "ending the story". It's amazing that people in 2023 can be just as accepting of the mainstream narrative as the average joes in the 60s, that were subjected to a top down narrative decided by the powers that be using 3 TV channels and 2 newspapers.

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Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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I don't know why people are so obsessed with this conspiracy theory. Occam's Razor says it was Oswald. Why invest time speculating and arguing over it when there is no way to verify anything? This new revelation doesn't change anything, it's just hearsay.

It’s an amazing bit of history. Leaders of major powers have regularly been assassinated in history. Here the leader of a globally hegemonic nation was assassinated on camera.

> It’s an amazing bit of history.

Sure, it's the obsessing over conspiracy theories that I don't get. There's no way to verify the various speculations, so what's the point?

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

#30

I don't know why people are so obsessed with this conspiracy theory. Occam's Razor says it was Oswald. Why invest time speculating and arguing over it when there is no way to verify anything? This new revelation doesn't change anything, it's just hearsay.

Occam's Razor says that the guy framed to be the fall guy on this literal world changing event was killed mere ours after the fact on live television, "ending the story". It's amazing that people in 2023 can be just as accepting of the mainstream narrative as the average joes in the 60s, that were subjected to a top down narrative decided by the powers that be using 3 TV channels and 2 newspapers.

That's not at all how Occam's Razor works or is applied.
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