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Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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mancerayder wrote: post #14
davewritescode wrote: post #2

> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.

Just think of the views from Edgewater or West New York! Jersey City has become fairly interesting, but I don't see tourists from Sweden going to stay there so they can visit the Empire State Building.

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Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by rr808 »

davewritescode wrote: post #2

> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.

Jersey City banned AirBnB many years ago already. No rentals allowed Edit - actually they are just strictly regulated. I know my friend gave up hosting after the law went in. https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/2682

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by mancerayder »

jmyeet wrote: post #16

Good. Airbnb is cancer. I just hope there's an actual enforcement mechanism. The optimist in me hopes the housing crisis may finally start to wake people up to how most of us are being systematically exploited and we live in a society that deliberately withholds shelter, which quite literally kills people, so a tiny number of people can profit from it.

NYC is a place where enforcement is connected to who's in power and what the issue of the day is. The issue of the day today is the astronomical rent increases since the pandemic ended. Blame is everywhere.

And Airbnb certainly has at least somewhat of a role to play.

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Post by cardamomo »

mancerayder wrote: post #19
cardamomo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about that. They're already spending $$$ on crap apartments in deep Brooklyn. That's at least an hour to lower Manhattan, easily two hours to upper.

Fair point but deep Brooklyn is still NY, and for that matter Brooklyn has sparked curiosity in Europe a lot in the last decade. There's a ton of European tourists. And deep Brooklyn has some things to see. Prospect Park, BK Museum, and some old school ethnic enclaves that pop up in Time Out type guides.

Also a good point! I recently moved away from Brooklyn, but I lived there for 9 years and would heartily recommend a Brooklyn-only tourist itinerary. Thanks for the perspective.

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Post by wombat-man »

kbos87 wrote: post #15
nine_zeros wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I chuckled myself. Tourists spending thousands to visit the city aren't going to stay 2 hours away in another crap apartment in Jersey.

The anti Airbnb narrative always assumes we are talking about some crappy apartment that someone was duped into staying in. Let's entertain the idea for just a minute that you are an extended family visiting NYC. You need 2-3 bedrooms, some amount of space to spread out, and a kitchen could potentially save you some real money vs. eating out for every meal. Hotel rooms like that really don't exist, at least for norma…

ok well it's a 2-3 bedroom apartment a family or roommates can't live in then.

Plenty of hotels have rooms with two queens that can comfortably sleep 4 people.

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

wombat-man wrote: post #4

I hope the effort is successful. I live there and the sight of confused tourists with suit cases had become pretty common. Idk how much it'll help with rent prices but interested in seeing how it works out.

As much as I've enjoyed AirBnB, the housing crisis is more important - and the industry needs more regulation if it's to exist.

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Post by fasthands9 »

davewritescode wrote: post #2

> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.

I think they just mean people will stay in New Jersey - which would be extremely plausible if NJ allowed more hotels to be built. Most of the tourist stuff in NYC is in midtown which is a 15/20 minute public transit ride from the port authority/penn station/broadway area.

I have family that stays in Stamford Connecticut whenever they want to do stuff in NYC, because they find it cheaper/easier to stay there and take the train in.

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Post by lotsoweiners »

davewritescode wrote: post #2

> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.

I guess Lin-Manuel was right…everything is legal in New Jersey.

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Post by throwoutway »

rr808 wrote: post #22
davewritescode wrote: post #2

> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.

Jersey City banned AirBnB many years ago already. No rentals allowed Edit - actually they are just strictly regulated. I know my friend gave up hosting after the law went in. https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/2682

Is it irony that the opponents of the measure didn't even know this when they complained this would happen? Or just ignorance

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by routerl »

gruez wrote: post #8
nine_zeros wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I chuckled myself. Tourists spending thousands to visit the city aren't going to stay 2 hours away in another crap apartment in Jersey.

> I chuckled myself. Tourists spending thousands to visit the city aren't going to stay 2 hours away in another crap apartment in Jersey. Isn't new jersey right across the river from new york, with rapid transit lines going into new york? Your "2 hours" estimate seems wildly inflated.

> Isn't new jersey right across the river from new york, with rapid transit lines going into new york?

In Chongqing, map apps will often recommend a "nearby" restaurant which actually is several hundred meters away, vertically; you'll have to descend many stair steps before arriving at that restaurant, even though it looked so close on the map. In other words, the restaurant was not actually "close", when it comes to the time and energy investment required.

In this same spirit, New Jersey is absolutely not "close" to Manhattan, even if it looks close on maps. Traffic sucks, public transportation sucks, bridges and tunnels suck.

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