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Tesla breaks down mid-turn and causes more than nine hours of travel chaos

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Re: Tesla breaks down mid-turn and causes more than nine hours of travel chaos

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Cars break down all the time but at least they can be moved to the side of the road. Are Teslas not able to be moved once they run out of juice? They’re heavy and even with a few folks pushing from the back, is it able to disengage the parking brake?

On the other hand there are also numerous premium ICE cars which, if they break down in a specific way, can’t be placed into neutral without appropriate tools. This isn’t a new EV thing.

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"The Tesla Model 3 Performance is a four-wheel-drive electric car with a starting cost of £57,000 and a battery life of 41 hours." From the article, I had no idea battery life was measured in hours, I don't even know how that would work for a car.

I had no idea battery life was measured in hours

It’s not. I know a lot about EVs and I’ve owned a Tesla myself for years, and I don’t know what they’re talking about.

Re: Tesla breaks down mid-turn and causes more than nine hours of travel chaos

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Cars break down all the time but at least they can be moved to the side of the road. Are Teslas not able to be moved once they run out of juice? They’re heavy and even with a few folks pushing from the back, is it able to disengage the parking brake?

From the fine article: > The handbrakes of electric cars, and some other modern cars, are controlled electronically, unlike those of traditional petrol and diesel cars, which are mechanical. This means that the handbrake often locks when the power fails and the car cannot be pushed or towed. This sounds like a major oversight by Tesla as there should be some override in case a vehicle breaks down in a dangerous posit…

You can still tow it even with the handbrake on, just drag it.

Re: Tesla breaks down mid-turn and causes more than nine hours of travel chaos

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Cars break down all the time but at least they can be moved to the side of the road. Are Teslas not able to be moved once they run out of juice? They’re heavy and even with a few folks pushing from the back, is it able to disengage the parking brake?

My understanding is that many/most modern cars [0] have an electronic parking brake, and soon enough all of them will.

Of course, a headline such as “car with electronic handbrake breaks down mid-turn…” wouldn’t have had the same clickability. I’m shocked - shocked! - to find a “news” organization sacrificing truth for outrage!

[0] E-handbrakes aren’t a great fit to a manual transmission (or are they?) but I suspect the days of manual transmissions are numbered: electric cars no more need a manual transmission than they need a buggy whip.

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Running out of fuel is something it’s obviously “easy” to do with other cars. But I’m surprised that the electronics have _no_ power redundancy, there isn’t a manual release for the parking break, and running out of power causes the parking break to fail-closed?

Safety-wise it's better option. Breaking vs just rolling without working brakes. And I really do not like trend of making brakes drive-by-wire instead of mechanical just to (presumably) save few pennies...

The Tesla Model 3 brakes are hydraulic and the pedal is still mechanically connected to the master cylinder. It’s the parking brake which is electronically actuated, as it is with nearly all modern ICE cars.

Re: Tesla breaks down mid-turn and causes more than nine hours of travel chaos

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Why is this even news? How often does “any” car break down across the UK or USA or Europe and cause a traffic jam?

I’ll answer this question, because the media hates Elon Musk and deeply desires that Tesla fails. Despite Tesla pushing forward the “green agenda” and hence liberal left movement more than any other single company or person.

I have a feeling the New York Times, Guardian etc, would be drinking champagne if Tesla went bankrupt. I don’t understand it honestly.

Re: Tesla breaks down mid-turn and causes more than nine hours of travel chaos

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Cars break down all the time but at least they can be moved to the side of the road. Are Teslas not able to be moved once they run out of juice? They’re heavy and even with a few folks pushing from the back, is it able to disengage the parking brake?

From the fine article: > The handbrakes of electric cars, and some other modern cars, are controlled electronically, unlike those of traditional petrol and diesel cars, which are mechanical. This means that the handbrake often locks when the power fails and the car cannot be pushed or towed. This sounds like a major oversight by Tesla as there should be some override in case a vehicle breaks down in a dangerous posit…

Other car models have handbrakes and/or can be left in a gear that locks the wheels.

They should have called a parking enforcement truck that carries rollers that attach to the locked wheels, they could have moved the car pretty quickly.

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