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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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The weirdest part of this to me is the customer. You knew the manufacturer had a reputation of forgetting hard to check parts ... and you still bought one. What else could it be missing that you can't practically check for? Still I guess at least it's good to see Tesla living up to the reputation for American cars to be generally shit build quality. I feel like they're going a bit overboard on that factor though.

>The electric SUV owner told me he still prefers that I use only his initials and his other nickname (Cracked_Tesla) because he wants to give another Tesla Service Center a chance to do the right thing.

The owner received a car with cracked structural components and is still going to give them another chance. I could understanding asking to remain anonymous to avoid retaliation or public scrutiny, but not whatever this is.

Cracked_Tesla, if you're listening, the correct response is to demand a complete refund or replacement. If refused, take legal action. This could be an ordinary lawsuit in civil court or a complaint filed under the local lemon laws. You are owed tens of thousands of dollars, so hire a lawyer. And then spread the story far and wide, naming the particular Tesla employees involved, because these people tried to kill you.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

#23

Are cast structural parts common on modern cars? I thought the structure of modern cars was forged parts welded together by robots.

Relatively new for such large parts, and an innovation by Tesla, although other manufacturers are picking the idea up too.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

#25
post #9

The weirdest part of this to me is the customer. You knew the manufacturer had a reputation of forgetting hard to check parts ... and you still bought one. What else could it be missing that you can't practically check for? Still I guess at least it's good to see Tesla living up to the reputation for American cars to be generally shit build quality. I feel like they're going a bit overboard on that factor though.

>You knew the manufacturer had a reputation of forgetting hard to check parts... and you still bought one. Yeah but the company is run by a hip cool memelord who's gonna get us to mars, and his cars have nice softwares like my iPad. Who cares about the metal parts of the car's rigidity structure? That's just something old boring people think about. Everyone knows EVs are more reliable than ICE so no need to ever look…

> The shit build quality has less to do with being American

I'm not suggesting they're shit because they're American. I'm just saying it's nice to see them living up to the existing standard of shitness set by the existing American manufacturers.

I'm sure each American car manufacturer has their own unique and interesting reasons for having reliably shit build quality compared to European or Japanese manufacturers.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

#26
post #5

Light being able to shine straight through part of your car that's meant to be solid is scary. Does anyone know how common it is for cast metal of this sort to have damage like this? I am kind of surprised their manufacturing would have this issue

In a well controlled process it should not be common. Bigger parts have been casted before without issue. Tesla cutting corners?

Rumint: Tesla has designed castings that are too big and/or too complex for the casting presses to produce a good yield. Tesla blames IDRA. But another maker of those machines turned down Tesla's RFP.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

#28

> The Tesla Files episode revealed that the BEV maker instructs its technicians always to provide feedback orally. Internal documents obtained by Handelsblatt stated: "Do not copy the report below into an email, text message, or leave it in a voicemail to the customer." I don't know how serious a crack in the front casting on a Tesla is, but this kind of policy is pretty egregious.

If it is legal where you live, you might want to get in the habit of secretly recording business dealings. I always have a recorder in my pocket when dealing with more than a few hundred dollars.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

#29
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If this vehicle were truly unsafe to drive (according to US safety standards), what legal recourse would an individual consumer have to have this fixed? Unless the user gets in an accident, is there a way to actually prove the frame is structurally defective?

> is there a way to actually prove the frame is structurally defective?

I think the photos do that just fine

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

#30

Has the car owner shown a full video of the car? Are we sure we're not just looking at a crashed car? It'd be nice for the article to include a video like that so there's no doubt.

The article says:

> NK denied his car was ever involved in any collisions.

And given that the owner took it to an official service center to check the issue I believe the service center would have detected if it was the result of a collision instead of:

> The manager of the service center said multiple times that 'the car is safe to drive' and that he had been assured by 'engineers' that it is 'safe.' However, he will not give me anything in more detail or any official Tesla documentation to confirm that.

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