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Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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Just go to a hotel. Airbnb isn’t cheaper and it’s no longer a unique experience either

This is such an annoying blanket statement. Yes, hotels are the best option in larger cities for short term stays, but as soon as you plan to stay for a few weeks or months and need a kitchen, and want to live relatively close to a local life, airbnb is the best route with the most options.

Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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Just go to a hotel. Airbnb isn’t cheaper and it’s no longer a unique experience either

Hotels are a limited option. They are perfect for a single couple, or with one or two kids. For a single person they tend to be a bit expensive since you usually pay the price for two, and hostels, which can accommodate single travelers are not common in the US. But there are plenty of shared AirBnBs. If, on the opposite you are traveling in a larger group (4+ adults), hotel options are again limited. You often need…

Sure, ignoring total cost and just going by the rates you pay up front.

What are you going to do when there's a dispute, a crime, or a disaster?

Hotels are insured and their employees are bonded for lots of stuff. Hotels are highly regulated for a lot of reasons that happened in the past and nobody remembers, because they don't happen anymore, but they're all being recapitulated with AirBnB supposedly "disrupting" the industry.

Every time I've stayed in a hotel, even long before I was aware that regulation was a thing or what it regulated, I was grateful for the rigorous structures that were set in place and the guidelines that needed to be followed by our hosts so that we could have a pleasant and predictable stay.

Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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NYC will hopefully start banning short term rentals starting next month: https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2023/08/25/new-yo...

Oh wow this is fantastic news for New Yorkers. I hope this gets picked up by more states & countries.

New Yorkers don't travel and enjoy airbnbs?

Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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I think the worst part of this is that companies can (often times intentionally) do extremely scummy and even illegal stuff with the knowledge that if they're caught, the worst they'll have to do is pay back what they should have in the first place. AirBNB probably makes thousands off of refusing to refund in cases where they were supposed to. And the one time that they're forced to, they don't have to pay a fine or…

In Denmark we have a government agency called The National Consumer Agency. Citizens can complain here if a company treats them unfairly, and they will take the fight on your behalf. Just knowing that is an option or threatening with reporting a vendor acting in bad faith is often enough.

Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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> "And all my requests for discovery were denied and the hearing happened the next day. I was NOT prepared to move forward with basically nothing..." > "We had already played recordings of me crying with customer service (embarrassing) and in order to "prove" that I was impacted by this I had to submit anxiety medications my doctor had prescribed me that I was then cross-examined on (double embarrassing)." > They cla…

They provide a service that is hard to come by: hosting anywhere.

Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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Before airbnb, the idea was crazy that you’d let strangers into your home. It’s still kind of crazy because one stranger could damage and ruin the experience for everybody.

Similarly one host could ruin it for everybody.

The lesson from Airbnb over and over again is that they choose profits over a consistent guest experience.

Airbnb support is like Google, they really do leave you in the cold if you don’t know an insider.

Uber/lyft have a faaaaar faaaar more consistent experience. It’s not perfect but much better than taxis.

AirBnb has NOT been better than hotels. Pictures and actual place could be off, many fees tacked on, easily lose thousands if you don’t like the place. Customer support will acknowledge the problem but don’t do much to fix it.

Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow this is fantastic news for New Yorkers. I hope this gets picked up by more states & countries.

New Yorkers don't travel and enjoy airbnbs?

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Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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> "And all my requests for discovery were denied and the hearing happened the next day. I was NOT prepared to move forward with basically nothing..." > "We had already played recordings of me crying with customer service (embarrassing) and in order to "prove" that I was impacted by this I had to submit anxiety medications my doctor had prescribed me that I was then cross-examined on (double embarrassing)." > They cla…

They provide a service that is hard to come by: hosting anywhere.

Innkeeping is not exactly new.

Their innovations so far seem to be mostly around liability reduction and zoning law evasion. They're like a tobacco company at this stage, let's admit it.

Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow this is fantastic news for New Yorkers. I hope this gets picked up by more states & countries.

New Yorkers don't travel and enjoy airbnbs?

We can and do.

But I also want Airbnb to be regulated and return to what it was originally - a place that people can rent out their own home for a few weeks while they are on vacation, and not illegal hotels.

Re: Airbnb allowing host to place cameras in the room where I would be sleeping

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Just go to a hotel. Airbnb isn’t cheaper and it’s no longer a unique experience either

Meeeh, I've stayed in quite a few very unique AirBNB locations. I typically purposefully go for places out of the way and with very few amenities. My favorite rental was an extremely small cabin with no running water in the middle of nowhere for something like 60$ a day. Definitely hit or miss though but it's part of the fun, once I stayed at a cabin near a swamp and the frogs kept me up for quite a while. Maybe it's easy to find places like this for some people but for me this is the reason I still use AirBNB.
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