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HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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See also Elementary OS and its Pantheon desktop environment.

A long while back there were efforts to port Pantheon to FreeBSD. IMO, a coordinated effort to get the graphical and UX experience on Linux or FreeBSD would be better than yet another one.

I do wonder about eOS staff issues. It would be a shame to see that fall apart, I've been using it for years. Even so, someone picking up the torch as it were would be better than starting another.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

#23

See also Elementary OS and its Pantheon desktop environment.

ElementaryOS is very polished aesthetically and I love that they didn't jump aboard the "flat rectangles and monochrome icons" bandwagon like everybody else, but the way they went along with the various functionality-limiting GNOME conventions like replacing proper menubars with hamburger menus and hiding the minimize button is disappointing.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

#24

See also Elementary OS and its Pantheon desktop environment.

ElementaryOS is very polished aesthetically and I love that they didn't jump aboard the "flat rectangles and monochrome icons" bandwagon like everybody else, but the way they went along with the various functionality-limiting GNOME conventions like replacing proper menubars with hamburger menus and hiding the minimize button is disappointing.

Still better than GNOME

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

#25

See also Elementary OS and its Pantheon desktop environment.

Has ElementaryOS gotten their staff problems fixed yet? I’m also annoyed that they don’t go for Objective C which could make a lot of seasoned Apple developers comfortable, but instead went for a custom language.

Then take a look at GnuStep or WindowMaker.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses

Do you think Apple BSD licensed the iconic Macintosh "hello" image or something? https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/01/24/apple-launched-ma...

No I meant this is under BSD, and they aren’t even selling it.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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See also Elementary OS and its Pantheon desktop environment.

Has ElementaryOS gotten their staff problems fixed yet? I’m also annoyed that they don’t go for Objective C which could make a lot of seasoned Apple developers comfortable, but instead went for a custom language.

> custom language

Vala wasn't a custom language for elementaryOS, it already existed for years before the first version of the OS (and i think the first version didn't use any Vala code).

It most likely used instead of Objective-C because its object system was built on top of glib's gobject system and elementaryOS used Gtk and a lot of other glib/gobject-based libraries. Using Objective-C would mean they'd have to base their UI on GNUstep and GNUstep wasn't as polished as Gtk.

Remember that while they used macOS as an inspiration, it was never elementaryOS's goal to make a macOS clone.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has ElementaryOS gotten their staff problems fixed yet? I’m also annoyed that they don’t go for Objective C which could make a lot of seasoned Apple developers comfortable, but instead went for a custom language.

Then take a look at GnuStep or WindowMaker.

Window Maker does not use GNUstep or Objective-C at all, it is all written in plain C. In fact the UI toolkit it uses (developed for Window Maker itself) is called "WINGs" for "WINGs Is Not GNUstep".

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Contribute to GNUStep if you want to support a legitimate transition for Mac users. Not yet another aqua rip off distro running reskinned Mate. Just get FreeBSD with gnome or mate if you’re so inclined. If you’re using Hello as your daily driver, you’re gonna get your hands dirty getting things to work anyway. Might as well start from core. GhostBSD, MidnightBSD, TrueOS, haven’t people realized FreeBSD is too obscure…

Presumably, what technically-minded Mac users who might switch want and what projects like this are aiming to achieve is to have a high level of consistency and "one piece design" not just on the user-facing half, but also under the hood, and the various BSDs have more to offer in this department than mainstream GNU/Linux distributions.

It might be worth looking at one of those Linux distros that swaps out GNU userland/toolchain in favor of BSD equivalents wherever possible though.

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