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Japan starts release of Fukushima’s treated radioactive water

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Re: Japan starts release of Fukushima’s treated radioactive water

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Post by mirekrusin »

freetime2 wrote: post #2

> Japan says all radioactive elements have been filtered out except tritium, which is hard to remove from water. The hydrogen isotope is also discharged – at higher levels – by operational nuclear power plants, including in China and France. > That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organization drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco.…

If it's under drinkable thresholds, they should bottle them and see how their "San Tritiurino" "energy water" / "water with a kick" sells in shops.

Re: Japan starts release of Fukushima’s treated radioactive water

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Post by ohgodplsno »

freetime2 wrote: post #2

> Japan says all radioactive elements have been filtered out except tritium, which is hard to remove from water. The hydrogen isotope is also discharged – at higher levels – by operational nuclear power plants, including in China and France. > That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organization drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco.…

None, groups like Greenpeace and various green parties throughout Europe are being China's useful idiots. Fukushima-Daishi is going to release 900 TBq in a whole ocean over multiple years, and that dose is already estimated by taking the worst numbers we could imagine.

La Hague's retreatment plant puts out 13000 TBq per year, and no one ever cared, nor did anyone see changes in the environment.

Not to mention that humans do not metabolize Tritium, it'll never stay in the human body for more than a few hours. You're more likely to die from the salt in that water than the tritium.

Re: Japan starts release of Fukushima’s treated radioactive water

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Post by CalRobert »

echelon wrote: post #6
Akronymus wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is water that qas involved with a nuclear reactor. Yes, people are that afraid of nuclear.

The greens of the 80's did so much more harm than good. If we'd built the capacity then, we'd have a whole lot less carbon in the atmosphere today.

There needs to be a distinction between greens who can and cannot add.

Same for the classic "look at that ugly city, so bad for the environment!" Bay area types who forced suburban sprawl.

Re: Japan starts release of Fukushima’s treated radioactive water

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Post by blablabla123 »

ammo1662 wrote: post #19
freetime2 wrote: post #2

> Japan says all radioactive elements have been filtered out except tritium, which is hard to remove from water. The hydrogen isotope is also discharged – at higher levels – by operational nuclear power plants, including in China and France. > That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organization drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco.…

They are trying to mislead you about the difference of "nuclear waste water" and "nuclear polluted water". The waste water of nuclear plant will not directly touch the nuclear materials. However, the water Japan released did.

This seems also the only real problem left to me. I have no doubts that they get the concentration low enough. But I wonder how likely it is that there are still particles left in the water that in isolation might have unacceptable radiation/toxicity levels.

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Post by Prickle »

mirekrusin wrote: post #21
freetime2 wrote: post #2

> Japan says all radioactive elements have been filtered out except tritium, which is hard to remove from water. The hydrogen isotope is also discharged – at higher levels – by operational nuclear power plants, including in China and France. > That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organization drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco.…

If it's under drinkable thresholds, they should bottle them and see how their "San Tritiurino" "energy water" / "water with a kick" sells in shops.

You realize water is distilled right? "Drink-able water" is different from "One item is below safe drinking thresholds".

Drinking salty sea water is generally not recommended.

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Post by sooheon »

Prickle wrote: post #5
freetime2 wrote: post #2

> Japan says all radioactive elements have been filtered out except tritium, which is hard to remove from water. The hydrogen isotope is also discharged – at higher levels – by operational nuclear power plants, including in China and France. > That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organization drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco.…

China and South Korea are making a big fuss about it, despite producing and releasing more tritium than Japan. Just a few minutes ago, The CPC (Communist Party of China) stated that it is suspending all imports of Japanese seafood to protect consumers. Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-66599189 > As expected, China has imposed a blanket ban on all Japanese seafood. > Beijing announced some restrictions…

Source for claim that South Korea releases more than Japan?

Re: Japan starts release of Fukushima’s treated radioactive water

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Post by fomine3 »

ammo1662 wrote: post #19
freetime2 wrote: post #2

> Japan says all radioactive elements have been filtered out except tritium, which is hard to remove from water. The hydrogen isotope is also discharged – at higher levels – by operational nuclear power plants, including in China and France. > That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organization drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco.…

They are trying to mislead you about the difference of "nuclear waste water" and "nuclear polluted water". The waste water of nuclear plant will not directly touch the nuclear materials. However, the water Japan released did.

Regardless of source, it's same thing if what govt/IAEA checked is correct.

Re: Japan starts release of Fukushima’s treated radioactive water

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Post by mr_mitm »

freetime2 wrote: post #2

> Japan says all radioactive elements have been filtered out except tritium, which is hard to remove from water. The hydrogen isotope is also discharged – at higher levels – by operational nuclear power plants, including in China and France. > That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organization drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco.…

These facts won't convince people who believe in homeopathy, of which there are plenty. Of course there shouldn't be a controversy, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that there is, considering the amount of anti-scientific sentiments in the general population.

Re: Japan starts release of Fukushima’s treated radioactive water

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Post by ohgodplsno »

ipaddr wrote: post #16
freetime2 wrote: post #2

> Japan says all radioactive elements have been filtered out except tritium, which is hard to remove from water. The hydrogen isotope is also discharged – at higher levels – by operational nuclear power plants, including in China and France. > That water will contain about 190 becquerels of tritium per litre, below the World Health Organization drinking water limit of 10,000 becquerels per litre, according to Tepco.…

10,000 is very high and this level will be lowered hopefully in time. In Ontario Canada: 20 Bq/L limit proposed by the Ontario Drinking Water Advisory Council (ODWAC) 190 is 10 times that limit. This isn't only about drinking water it's about eating seafood that has absorbed these chemicals (or eaten many fish who have absorbed them). I could understand the caution around seafood in that area for a period of time.

I regret to tell you the ODWAC is made up of unqualified morons preying on your fears then.

The ocean's average radioactivity is 12Bq/L, and there's a _lot_ of water. A single banana is 20Bq already.

Dump a few million litres of 10000Bq/L water in the ocean over a few years, and the average radioactivity goes to... Still 12Bq/L

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