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The Plumber Problem

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Re: The Plumber Problem

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Star Trek Discovery: "the Probe used a SQL Injection attack"

Knowing how legacy software lives on far past its expected lifetime, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if SQL (and services though which you could pass SQL injection) are still in use 235 years from now.

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Going along with narrative requires suspension of disbelief. However, when you see obvious factual errors, disbelief comes knocking again as you begin questioning everything.

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one of the pitfalls of hobbies like historical reenactment is precisely this. Nobody does armour or most material goods correctly in visual media, and once that’s a salient fact for you it really kind of breaks the spell.

Not to mention the actual combat. It's hard to take a swordfight seriously when both parties seem preoccupied with swinging at their opponents sword.

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#24
My wife is a physician and it drives her crazy. It often manifests as a scene like:

    Doctor 1: This patient has severe hepatitis, we need to get them into surgery stat!

    Doctor 2: You mean they have an inflammation of their liver?
Which is truly the dumbest possible way for a doctor to respond in the real world, though obviously can be necessary for exposition to the viewer.

As a programmer, "Live Free or Die Hard", "Independence Day", and "Swordfish" are memorable examples of this sort of cinematic stupidity

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post #4

Yeah you need a better name for that, because, while the phenomenon is real, the name is kind of meh. Why not the electrician problem? Or the teacher problem? Any profession would work. Why plumbers? Plus, I can't really recall any movie or novel where expertise in plumbing was essential to the plot. Editing here because based on some replies my message wasn't clear: I was talking about expertise in plumbing exhibite…

The point is that expertise in plumbing isn't essential to the plot. Sometimes it might be, but sometimes it is just a background thing that a plumber would catch but most people don't. If the scene is in the basement a plumber might notice that the drain pipes are all flowing uphill, but the average person just sees a bunch of pipes that to think look like the pipes in any other basement.

Of course in a lot of cases expertise is needed. However that isn't important. The important part is you have more knowledge about something than the average person.

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post #11

This applies to the real world as well. I've had a couple of times when I've been closely involved in an event that was covered in the national newspapers. Both times the stories were presented with major factual inaccuracies and with clear bias. I've brought this up in conversation a few times over the years and quite often a similar experience was reported by others. Yet everyone still seemed happy to trust the acc…

> I've had a couple of times when I've been closely involved in an event that was covered in the national newspapers. Both times the stories were presented with major factual inaccuracies and with clear bias.

Same. A few years ago, I worked at a large tech company that a certain well-known news organization likes to cover. After a few articles were published relating to work I was involved in, I found myself thinking "Nope, that's totally wrong" or "Technically correct but presented in a biased way". I decided to cancel my news subscription with them because I realized that they have a certain narrative they want to present to the public, and why should I trust any of their reporting on other topics if the one I was involved in firsthand was just completely wrong?

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As a writer myself: I have actual experts review what I write. That's about the best you can do. I think I read that The Big Bang Theory makes sure all the science is accurate. I wouldn't know.

It's too bad then that the rest of the show was so awful.

How can writers focused on scientific accuracy create such ugly and unlikeable caricatures for their cast and embed so much anti-intellectualism in every episode?

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In the Matrix humanity is enslaved to use them as an energy source. But the 2nd law of thermodynamics requires that any energy harvested would be, by definition, less than the energy of the food required to sustain their bodies. Therefore the plot makes no sense, because they should just shovel the food directly into the computer and skip the humans.

Modern industrial farming "wastes" tons of energy to get their desired outputs.

It's possible that the machines were advanced at some things but something that human bodies produced was something they couldn't directly synthesize.

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In the Matrix humanity is enslaved to use them as an energy source. But the 2nd law of thermodynamics requires that any energy harvested would be, by definition, less than the energy of the food required to sustain their bodies. Therefore the plot makes no sense, because they should just shovel the food directly into the computer and skip the humans.

I always interpreted "battery" to be lazy shorthand for using the humans as data storage or computation. Like an external hard drive or compute cluster. But I knew I was amending the story so I could stay invested in it.

Re: The Plumber Problem

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In the Matrix humanity is enslaved to use them as an energy source. But the 2nd law of thermodynamics requires that any energy harvested would be, by definition, less than the energy of the food required to sustain their bodies. Therefore the plot makes no sense, because they should just shovel the food directly into the computer and skip the humans.

This one is super easy. We're getting this story from a band of lunatics. Of course their understanding of the situation is limited by the framework they exist in.
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