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Re: Musk: Block is going to be deleted as a “feature”, except for DMs

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Post by foderking »

jfengel wrote: post #7

Musk is missing a key way that people use Twitter[0]: for community. Communities aren't a feature-supported thing. They're a spontaneous self-organization. People associate with others around some area of interest. They don't want it to be private; they want to be open and inviting. But they also want to be able to exclude those who make trouble. Musk suggests using mute instead of block, but that throws off the way…

blocking doesn't even stop troublemakers. They can just create another account. I agree with musk here. blocking is mostly useless

Re: Musk: Block is going to be deleted as a “feature”, except for DMs

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Post by cubefox »

rsynnott wrote: post #20
reportgunner wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I still have trouble understanding how this man created something as good as SpaceX despite displaying no obvious indications of genius, and every sign of mediocrity, in his current state. Well either your perception of things Musk does at SpaceX is wrong or your perception of things Musk does at X is wrong, right ?

The other option (and the one that would appear to be true in this case) is that SpaceX has more effective management, and Musk isn’t as closely involved.

Musk is very closely involved with SpaceX. There are extensive technical interviews with him on YouTube talking about the Starship program.

Re: Musk: Block is going to be deleted as a “feature”, except for DMs

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Post by cubefox »

krapp wrote: post #10
thrown1212 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the same question. It’s hard to judge from the outside like this but there are Trump-ian displays of arrogance, disconnection and incompetence that seem at odds with his massive successes with SpaceX and Tesla in particular. He’s clearly book smart, but seems like a petulant, chronically insecure man-child in most areas from the accounts both public and insider. I find the incongruence strange.

Elon Musk isn't responsible for the success of his companies - they succeed in spite of him, because of the quality of the people who do the actual work, and their ability to manage him and keep him from doing to Tesla and SpaceX what he's doing to Twitter. Unfortunately, modern American capitalism is obsessed with hero worship of CEOs and the myth of Elon Musk as a real life Tony Stark is just too compelling for peo…

That's obviously false, because then it would be highly unlikely to have two highly successful companies (Tesla and SpaceX, not even counting PayPal) if it was just him being lucky with employees.

Re: Musk: Block is going to be deleted as a “feature”, except for DMs

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Post by cubefox »

smoldesu wrote: post #15
altacc wrote: post #11

So many times I heard “but you can just block them” as a defence for allowing any speech on Twitter. How’s that plan working out? I give it 10 minutes after the feature is turned off and Musk is flooded with tweets that trigger him before he reinstates his personal ability to block people he doesn’t like.

> How’s that plan working out? Pretty great, actually. I'm a staunch believer in that strategy, although I'm on Mastodon and not Twitter. Mastodon really perfects the block feature by adding a "Block from instance" button that filters entire websites from your feed. You can wipe *@threads.com off your timeline with 2 clicks, it's glorious.

The perfect echo chamber/ filter bubble. Great.

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Post by cubefox »

MallocVoidstar wrote: post #3

Now when someone spams you with images of rotting dead bodies you just get to wait the three weeks for Twitter's moderation to get around to banning them instead of being able to block them. Great!

Mute them? (Btw I have never seen something like that on Twitter.)

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Post by rsynnott »

cubefox wrote: post #22
rsynnott wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other option (and the one that would appear to be true in this case) is that SpaceX has more effective management, and Musk isn’t as closely involved.

Musk is very closely involved with SpaceX. There are extensive technical interviews with him on YouTube talking about the Starship program.

I mean, there are extensive technical interviews with Kim Jong Un on North Korean tv talking about whatever the random factory he’s visiting does; wouldn’t read too much into that.

(Actually, I’m not 100% sure if Un does this; Il was certainly big on it)

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Post by p_j_w »

cubefox wrote: post #24
smoldesu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How’s that plan working out? Pretty great, actually. I'm a staunch believer in that strategy, although I'm on Mastodon and not Twitter. Mastodon really perfects the block feature by adding a "Block from instance" button that filters entire websites from your feed. You can wipe *@threads.com off your timeline with 2 clicks, it's glorious.

The perfect echo chamber/ filter bubble. Great.

Mastodon and Twitter are absolute shit ways to engage in productive conversation with people and ideas that you disagree with. They’re both far worse than formal debate, which is shit in its own ways. If you wanna force people to listen to tankies and Nazis, a microblogging platform isn’t the place to do it.

Re: Musk: Block is going to be deleted as a “feature”, except for DMs

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Post by spiralx »

rsynnott wrote: post #26
cubefox wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk is very closely involved with SpaceX. There are extensive technical interviews with him on YouTube talking about the Starship program.

I mean, there are extensive technical interviews with Kim Jong Un on North Korean tv talking about whatever the random factory he’s visiting does; wouldn’t read too much into that. (Actually, I’m not 100% sure if Un does this; Il was certainly big on it)

It seems he does:

https://kimjongunlookingatthings.com/

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