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Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by uwerewarned »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #15

Hard pass. I don't want Google, or even a trustworthy neutral party, to decide my view of the world. (Compromised as it may be already.) We're all unique and unpredictable. In a given article, a random sentence or point considered throwaway by most people and algorithms could turn out to be meaningful to me. I've been trained not to even trust the basic facts they pull of out content like movie showtimes or whatever.…

Google is like a trustworthy neutral party except for the trustworthy and neutral bit

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by ttul »

mmastrac wrote: post #3

I assume this is all done server-side, with Google feeding your interests and investigations into your personal profile. I really wish this could be done on-device. I don't want Google slurping up even more data about web users. I use FF mainly on desktop and mobile, and there's probably a great opportunity for Mozilla to build an offline, privacy-first summarization model.

I’m wildly speculating, but it seems that projects like llama.cpp are bringing SOTA models closer to the desktop. It’s only a matter of time before browsers embed a small LLM for various purposes, providing access to this local model via a JavaScript API that allows clients like Gmail to perform tasks on data locally. Apple would be strongly incentivized to do this, given their value proposition of user privacy.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by cj »

gumballindie wrote: post #16
eastbound wrote: post #4

Google searched has encouraged long pages for SEO. Now Google sells us the idea that Google can help you reduce the useless words on the internet. Maybe de-index receipes talking about how this soup was my grandma’s preferred soup. It’s not so hard, you still have the full power on search engines, Google! For at least 2 more full months! Do it! You are the problem, Google.

They are too busy turning their browser and search experience into crap. For instance what's with search results in gmail and google drive? I literaly search for a file by name, doesn't find it, I search by extension ... it finds it? Then there's chrome - right click on selected text to search on google, instead of opening at tab it opens a crammed side bar? Has google gone insane?

I've noticed gmail search has gotten significantly worse. Maybe my inbox corpus is becoming too large or google may be dedicating less server resources to search, but the frequency of failed inbox searches has significantly increased over the past year. (Failed as in I try to search for an email I know exists, but can't find it)

Looks like my inbox is at 250,000 emails. Wonder if search degrades with inbox size. (Same with drive?)

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by styren »

eastbound wrote: post #19
ChildOfEru wrote: post #7

Articles written by an AI and then summarized by another program. Nothing can go wrong here.

Then they tell us our Java app consumes too much CO2.

Why would an AI tell you that your java app uses too much CO2? What am I missing?

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by jraph »

andrewfurey2003 wrote: post #10
jraph wrote: post #8

Privacy aside if it's done server side, I think this crosses another dangerous line. With this, Google controls how content you read is summarized, they could introduce biases, intentionally or not, and I'm not sure we should trust such an actor for this.

Solution: dont use google.

Of course I can, and do, avoid Google.

That's an individual solution. I'm interested in a world that's as good as possible not only for me, but for the other people too. Most people around still use Google. They might find this new feature useful and start using it, and possibly suffer this bias. Not only they may get manipulated individually, but it can have broader consequences, even to those avoiding the feature. If Facebook can influence which president get elected in a country, it will also affect people avoiding facebook (sometime for this very reason).

Avoiding stuff for oneself is a first step but it's hardly a solution, these big corporations have a non negligible effect on the world, still with you as a member.

We'll have to start to raise awareness around these things, in addition to all the subjects on which we already need awareness.

But same old same old I guess, Google already puts you in a bubble, just even more concerning I guess. It was manipulating us, now it's another, new, potential manipulation angle.

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