Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

How They Tried to Kill Me

nplusonemag.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 148 posts

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

#21

Post by mistermann »

kunley wrote: post #15

Russia as a state didn't "descend into fascism". It was always like that. For centuries. I have heard stories about NKVD methods since childhood. The victims were my family members living in the estern Poland, after it was invaded by Stalin at the very beginnings of WW2. What was happening before red revolution, during tsars rule, is in the literature. It is funny how generations of intelligent, well-educated western…

Especially impressive about westerners is their honesty about the shortcomings of their own nations.

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

#23

Post by paganel »

throwbadubadu wrote: post #11
paganel wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Neither her nor "liberals" needed such a bad joke (I hope it was one?).

No, it wasn't a joke, not all of us share the same beliefs when it comes to this war.

I was alluding to the fact that the Russian liberals, like this lady is, usually get attacked from both sides, and it seemed to me that the OP was unhappy with some of her literary performance in this article (an attack, in other words).

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

#24

Post by TheLoafOfBread »

kunley wrote: post #15

Russia as a state didn't "descend into fascism". It was always like that. For centuries. I have heard stories about NKVD methods since childhood. The victims were my family members living in the estern Poland, after it was invaded by Stalin at the very beginnings of WW2. What was happening before red revolution, during tsars rule, is in the literature. It is funny how generations of intelligent, well-educated western…

Because admiting wrongdoing of Russia would go in face of their "America bad" mantra.

It is really funny to see western leftist pointing American imperialism here and there and when obvious non-American imperialism start happening all the western leftists are trying to bend over backwards to justify how Russia is not doing imperialism, how SVR and GRU squads can't be compared to what CIA is/was doing. Their doublethink is palpable.

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

#25

Post by mistermann »

K0balt wrote: post #12
derelicta wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why so much hostility towards her ?

It’s likely that Russian PR is active on HN. It certainly is on other similar sites.

Also common on HN and everywhere is people implying that those who disagree with narrative are necessarily Russian.

I wonder which phenomenon is more common, and which is more dangerous.

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

#26

Post by paganel »

derelicta wrote: post #22
K0balt wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s likely that Russian PR is active on HN. It certainly is on other similar sites.

I dont doubt so. but I dont this one account is part of it. Too old and too active.

I've been thrown "you're regurgitating Russian PR"at me by another old account a couple of weeks ago, when I mentioned that many Ukrainian men were literally kidnapped from the streets. Only for the Western The Guardian to come up yesterday with this article [1]: "Bribes and hiding at home: the Ukrainian men trying to avoid conscription". I wonder why would the Ukrainian men "hide at home"?

I've got used to it.

I've suggested to the admins of this forum at the beginning of this war to not let politics-related posts get to the front page, so that we won't have to get into these fights which help no-one, but apparently they're happy moderating this type of stuff so all the power to them.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/15/bribes-and-hid...

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

#27

Post by ajuc »

denton-scratch wrote: post #17

Considering that she's presumably well-informed about global affairs, her resistance to the idea that russian secret services might be out to kill her, and especially her refusal to believe she might have been poisoned, is rather striking. It's almost as if she had no idea that russian agents have been poisoning prominent people in foreign lands for the last couple of decades. Perhaps she thinks she's not prominent e…

> her resistance to the idea that russian secret services might be out to kill her, and especially her refusal to believe she might have been poisoned, is rather striking.

During stalinist cleansings people almost always believed others were imprisoned/executed for a good reason, but they were innocent so this can't happen to them.

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

#28

Post by [deleted] »

denton-scratch wrote: post #17

Considering that she's presumably well-informed about global affairs, her resistance to the idea that russian secret services might be out to kill her, and especially her refusal to believe she might have been poisoned, is rather striking. It's almost as if she had no idea that russian agents have been poisoning prominent people in foreign lands for the last couple of decades. Perhaps she thinks she's not prominent e…

[deleted]

Re: How They Tried to Kill Me

#29

Post by troglotit »

denton-scratch wrote: post #17

Considering that she's presumably well-informed about global affairs, her resistance to the idea that russian secret services might be out to kill her, and especially her refusal to believe she might have been poisoned, is rather striking. It's almost as if she had no idea that russian agents have been poisoning prominent people in foreign lands for the last couple of decades. Perhaps she thinks she's not prominent e…

Not exactly "prominent". It's just "department of poisioning" of GRU should rationalize their finances, so they need to show "results", i.e. just poison "enemies of state", even if you're helping LGBTQ kids, or small ethnic group, e.t.c.
Post reply on HN