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Michael Burry, of Big Short fame, just bet $1.6B on a stock market crash

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Re: Michael Burry, of Big Short fame, just bet $1.6B on a stock market crash

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It isn’t. CNN and many others have awful financial literacy and reporting standards. The 13F notional value calculations are horrendous. There is simply no way of knowing how big of a bet it is, but I can all but guarantee that it isn’t remotely close to 80% of his portfolio.

heck, it might even be larger-than-usual hedge where he thinks a crash is possible and the reward is relatively high to the small loss he'd be making, there's a lot of nuance skipped over here.

He might be sitting on a bunch of QQQ and SPY and just hedge against the price drop. I don’t know if reporting requirements are the same for long puts vs protective. Can anyone familiar with the topic elaborate?

Re: Michael Burry, of Big Short fame, just bet $1.6B on a stock market crash

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The bet against market from someone like him is bot unusual, but the size of the bet: 80% of his portfolio?

He has bought options... This is just a contract with a nominal fee attached to buy or sell an instrument at a pre determined price at a point in the future. The fee a small amount compared to the price of the share. So yeah he has tied up a small amount of capital to do this.

We don’t really know how much he tied up in this transaction. Depends on strike price and expiration date.

Re: Michael Burry, of Big Short fame, just bet $1.6B on a stock market crash

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> it can remain illogical longer than you remain solvent I don't know the details in real life, but in the movie he was mildly early and losing money for a long time before the move started realizing. I and heard rumors that there were other players that were even earlier and had to close their positions before it realized in order to avoid going bankrupt. BRB buying the book.

The book is not accurate and in particular most of the traders fought the decision to put the short on and then took credit for it afterwards. I really don’t want to say anything further. Source: I was there (working as a strat for Goldman in mortgages during the crisis).

Snob comment claiming an inside knowledge and yet refusing to provide any pointers or logical conclusion chains.

Re: Michael Burry, of Big Short fame, just bet $1.6B on a stock market crash

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The book is not accurate and in particular most of the traders fought the decision to put the short on and then took credit for it afterwards. I really don’t want to say anything further. Source: I was there (working as a strat for Goldman in mortgages during the crisis).

Snob comment claiming an inside knowledge and yet refusing to provide any pointers or logical conclusion chains.

Yeah a valid criticism and I apologise. All I would say is read the book/see the movie and enjoy it as a fun experience but don't necessarily take it as historical fact and in particular I wouldn't put any money behind anything just because Michael Burry has done it (as in TFA).

Re: Michael Burry, of Big Short fame, just bet $1.6B on a stock market crash

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

heck, it might even be larger-than-usual hedge where he thinks a crash is possible and the reward is relatively high to the small loss he'd be making, there's a lot of nuance skipped over here.

He might be sitting on a bunch of QQQ and SPY and just hedge against the price drop. I don’t know if reporting requirements are the same for long puts vs protective. Can anyone familiar with the topic elaborate?

"Protective" puts are the same thing as long puts. Doesn't matter if you own underlying against.

What doesn't have to be reported are shorts, so he could very well be long put spreads but the short leg would never be reported.

There is really very little point in trying to read the 13F tea leaves.

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