... I thought I was one of the few Linux users left using Firefox. All of my coworkers are using Chromium.
Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem
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#22Can someone knowledgeable comment on the possibility of VivLdi becoming the de facto standard browser for Linux? I played with it a little, thought it worked well, and most notably, it worked well for websites that gave Firefox trouble.
I'd prefer to see Brave be the de facto default. Except for some crypto stuff that is bundled by default, it seems to be really nice and even ships its own privacy focused search engine.
(Disclaimer: I personally don't daily drive Brave, but I would consider it if I ever decided to drop Opera.)
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#23Can someone knowledgeable comment on the possibility of VivLdi becoming the de facto standard browser for Linux? I played with it a little, thought it worked well, and most notably, it worked well for websites that gave Firefox trouble.
This article pointed out that GNOME Web and Falkon have problem as they are WebKit and Chromium based. Is not Vivaldi Chromium as well?
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#24> In an ideal world, the major stakeholders of the Linux desktop – KDE, GNOME, the various major distributions – would get together and seriously consider a plan of action. The best possible solution, in my view, would be to fork one of the major browser engines (or pick one and significantly invest in it), and modify this engine and tailor it specifically for the Linux desktop. Is it really the best solution to crea…
Mozilla has boatloads of money, but they don't seem keen on increasing investing in FF- if anything, cutting servo seemed quite the opposite.
To me, Mozilla is like the Wikimedia foundation- they take in a lot of money, but it seems like very little actually goes to the projects people think of when they hear the name.
Maybe that isn't a bad thing- surely there are worthy projects they could be investing in, in addition to FF or Wikipedia - but supporting them isn't as simple as offering more bodies in seats, because lack of money and talent isn't what is holding them back.
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#25As a firefox and desktop linux user I don’t see any problem
Read the entire article.
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#26As a firefox and desktop linux user I don’t see any problem
As a Firefox and Linux user, I do see that problem. Hardware video acceleration is fine now, and apparently has been for some time. But e.g. Google Meet plainly refuses to blur the video call background when run on Firefox. It happily does that when running in Chromium.
Have you tried changing user-agent header or similar? I'm not familiar with your specific example but have encountered plenty of sites which complain about "not supported" but work fine when UA header is the "right" one.
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#27To compare, how is Chrome or Chromium's attention to Linux Desktop, in terms of features and fixes?
whatever drips off from Chrome OS support....
Chrome on Linux had a random weird 3d grey border for years which was only fixed when it was announced ChromeOS was going to switch to the Linux desktop version.
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#28> In an ideal world, the major stakeholders of the Linux desktop – KDE, GNOME, the various major distributions – would get together and seriously consider a plan of action. The best possible solution, in my view, would be to fork one of the major browser engines (or pick one and significantly invest in it), and modify this engine and tailor it specifically for the Linux desktop. Is it really the best solution to crea…
100%
How the author arrives at the conclusion that the answer is to create another browser is beyond me.
Advocate for Firefox. Invest in Firefox. There you go.
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#29> In an ideal world, the major stakeholders of the Linux desktop – KDE, GNOME, the various major distributions – would get together and seriously consider a plan of action. The best possible solution, in my view, would be to fork one of the major browser engines (or pick one and significantly invest in it), and modify this engine and tailor it specifically for the Linux desktop. Is it really the best solution to crea…
I also think "the major stakeholders of the Linux desktop -- KDE, GNOME, various major distributions" are not necessarily in _any_ better shape than Mozilla is, unless you think IBM is going to open their wallet...
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#30Together, Linux + ChromeOS (much closer to standard GNU+Linux than Android) have something between 6% and 7% of the desktop. I don't remember people saying the same about MacOS when it was around that mark. Of course, we must be realistic. Linux around 6% is very different from MacOS at 6%. In that case, they already had support from items people complain to this day about Linux not having; main examĺes are msoffice…
I use kubuntu as my daily driver for work for a little over 2 years now. I still run into daily issues that just make me not want to use it for my personal desktop os. I fret Everytime I update, yet I must update due to work. but I have to schedule and plan those updates so that when the whole thing takes a shit, I can spend 2 or 3 hours fixing it. Just using the built in update utility, or apt upgrade, or really any…
Your overall point is valid and I don't want to minimize your struggles, but I do have a few questions.
> I fret Everytime I update, yet I must update due to work. but I have to schedule and plan those updates so that when the whole thing takes a shit, I can spend 2 or 3 hours fixing it. Just using the built in update utility, or apt upgrade, or really anything runs about a 10-20% chance of shit breaking. (I didn't do the math)
What... are you doing? Do you have some strange use-case that might be causing this? Since 2014 I've daily driven debians, Arch, and now NixOS and updates that break my system have been exceedingly rare. I don't remember a single time Arch pacman -Syu broke my system, nor apt, and, well, NixOS doesn't count ;)
> good support is almost non existent, IF you get help, it's from some greater than thou righteous asshole who suggests you just rewrite the drivers yourself and create a pull request.
Where do you ask for help? How do you ask it? I've never received such a dickish response when I go on IRC and ask questions, no matter how stupid. I'm consistently impressed at how dedicated some community members are to helping newbies out. What you're saying is completely opposite to my experience.