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My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by TheCapeGreek »

MadDemon wrote: post #16
thecodrr wrote: post #11

I would NOT call this frugal at all, actually. You are overspending in a lot of places and under spending in others. $281.32 per month for such a simple service is...astonishing. Change Vercel and Intercom with Cloudflare and Chatwoot (self hosted), and you have saved $120/mo. Get rid of Ahrefs for Ubersuggest (or no SEO tool at all) to save about $80 more. That leaves you with $81.32/mo. If you try even harder, you…

How does Ubersuggest compare to Ahrefs?

I was wondering the same.

Ubersuggest has a comparison page[0]. From my understanding it boils down to Ubersuggest being cheaper and most likely enough for what most users will need, but Ahrefs has a larger tool suite (and much higher cost).

[0] https://neilpatel.com/blog/ubersuggest-vs-ahrefs/

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by wongarsu »

bauerd wrote: post #3

>Google Analytics >No surprises here. I used to use Plausible, but that costs money and you can't beat free. Monthly cost: $0. Thanks hard pass. I checked and Plausible starts from 9 Euros a month. This is hardly what I'd consider advertising material. But likely I'm just not their target audience. There's also no consent banner, so this doesn't seem GDPR compliant Edit: I must have phrased this in a confusing way. T…

> There's also no consent banner, so this doesn't seem GDPR compliant

Plausible uses this one weird trick where they don't use cookies and don't store PII, and thus don't need consent (neither for cookies nor for GDPR). You lose some data because you can't track users across visits, but you gain accuracy (because you can track every visit, not just people who agree) and don't have to annoy your visitors.

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by intelVISA »

ZephyrBlu wrote: post #14

> I use AWS EC2 for Waitlist's backend python webserver, RDS for the postgres database, S3 for file storage, and an Elastic IP. I use T2 and T3 instances. My AWS bill would be $200-300 a month Seems like a high bill for what sounds like basically a hosted email list? I would have expected compute and storage costs to be very low. E: This was NOT a point about how cloud costs are ridiculous. Even for cloud this seems…

Welcome to the cloud dystopia.

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by ZephyrBlu »

wongarsu wrote: post #20
ZephyrBlu wrote: post #14

> I use AWS EC2 for Waitlist's backend python webserver, RDS for the postgres database, S3 for file storage, and an Elastic IP. I use T2 and T3 instances. My AWS bill would be $200-300 a month Seems like a high bill for what sounds like basically a hosted email list? I would have expected compute and storage costs to be very low. E: This was NOT a point about how cloud costs are ridiculous. Even for cloud this seems…

> except it's free because I got $5,000 in credits from AWS Activate Free credits are the ingenious marketing ploy of all big clouds to delay price comparisons until some amount of lock-in is achieved. Sure, you could likely host it for 1/10th to 1/5th of the cost elsewhere. But then you would have to pay from the get-go, and on AWS it's free™ (until it isn't)

I meant that even for hosting in the cloud it seems high.

I have a hard time understanding where the cost is coming from. I can only assume it's because of the DB as opposed to the instance or S3.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was over 10x cheaper if you didn't use cloud hosting.

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by pocketarc »

zvolsky wrote: post #13
bauerd wrote: post #3

>Google Analytics >No surprises here. I used to use Plausible, but that costs money and you can't beat free. Monthly cost: $0. Thanks hard pass. I checked and Plausible starts from 9 Euros a month. This is hardly what I'd consider advertising material. But likely I'm just not their target audience. There's also no consent banner, so this doesn't seem GDPR compliant Edit: I must have phrased this in a confusing way. T…

Even if you are using Google Analytics, you can skip the consent banner by denying on behalf of the user. GA will then update your counters without doing anything that would require consent. ad_storage='denied' > Requests are sent through a different domain to avoid previously set third-party cookies from being sent in request headers. > Google Analytics will not read or write Google Ads cookies, and Google signals f…

That, I did not know, and I'm quite happy to hear. I use Plausible where I can, but this kind of information is always helpful to have.

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by stewartmcgown »

thecodrr wrote: post #11

I would NOT call this frugal at all, actually. You are overspending in a lot of places and under spending in others. $281.32 per month for such a simple service is...astonishing. Change Vercel and Intercom with Cloudflare and Chatwoot (self hosted), and you have saved $120/mo. Get rid of Ahrefs for Ubersuggest (or no SEO tool at all) to save about $80 more. That leaves you with $81.32/mo. If you try even harder, you…

I used to be CTO of an Uber Eats style service that ran on hosting costs of about £100pm. Thousands of orders every few days, real time driver tracking, self hosted invoice generation, the works. Hetzner servers, Docker Swarm and Cloudflare for the tech.
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