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Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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Post by williamcotton »

kstrauser wrote: post #14
s5300 wrote: post #8

Sigh. Reminder that Terry being hellbanned on this website was cited by those who tracked him down in person towards the end as very not good for his mental state/part of reason for his extreme decline towards the end. Whether that’s true, no clue. But I like to think he deserved better.

That's sad and I feel for anyone whose mental illness drives wedges between them and society. I can't imagine many things more horrifying than to be a sentient mind trapped in a brain determined to play tricks on it. That said, you can't just let someone with those issues spew awfulness even if it's caused by a medical condition. That's a rough situation for the person being banned but I'm not sure what the less bad…

Sure you can, you just recognize that the person saying it is a very different kind of person.

Who was actually offended by Terry’s schizophrenic ramblings? Is the n word really that disturbing when used by someone without a firm grasp on reality and in the midst of a word salad? Is it racist or just nonsense?

“Rule are rules”… well, people in wheelchairs get a different set of rules and I’m perfectly fine sacrificing some of my own personal comfort to make accommodations.

Why isn’t this the same with mental illness?

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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Post by tombert »

Paul-Craft wrote: post #11
OfSanguineFire wrote: post #5

As someone who first knew Terry Davis from Slashdot where his clearly mentally ill posts seemed to get downvoted a lot of the time, it is remarkable to see that the products of his madness have become regarded as real art with staying power. He is like the Adolf Wölfli of the hacker crowd.

TempleOS is actually pretty cool, when viewed as the product of one man's dream. How many people can say they've written a 64-bit, multi-core, protected mode OS that comes with its own programming language? Then, throw in a flight simulator game, just for giggles. Honestly, if it weren't the product of religious delusions common with schizophrenia, I'd say TempleOS and HolyC would be more than enough of a resume to g…

I totally agree; regardless of Terry Davis' strangeness, there's no doubt a certain level of brilliance to it. Honestly, I think that's kind of why TempleOS has been so compelling to people. It's insane, but also beyond the skills of 99.99% of the population.

So much of the so-bad-its-good stuff required effort, and TempleOS is no exception.

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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Post by akerl_ »

s5300 wrote: post #8

Sigh. Reminder that Terry being hellbanned on this website was cited by those who tracked him down in person towards the end as very not good for his mental state/part of reason for his extreme decline towards the end. Whether that’s true, no clue. But I like to think he deserved better.

It's not viable for a community that wants to maintain quality discourse to allow continued posting by somebody who reliably mixes in slurs and bigotry.

I feel bad for Terry, because by all indications those posts were driven by mental health issues rather than intentional bigotry, but the effect of allowing them in the community is the same.

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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Post by Paul-Craft »

kstrauser wrote: post #14
s5300 wrote: post #8

Sigh. Reminder that Terry being hellbanned on this website was cited by those who tracked him down in person towards the end as very not good for his mental state/part of reason for his extreme decline towards the end. Whether that’s true, no clue. But I like to think he deserved better.

That's sad and I feel for anyone whose mental illness drives wedges between them and society. I can't imagine many things more horrifying than to be a sentient mind trapped in a brain determined to play tricks on it. That said, you can't just let someone with those issues spew awfulness even if it's caused by a medical condition. That's a rough situation for the person being banned but I'm not sure what the less bad…

Absolutely agree 100%.

One other terrible thing about mental illness like that (as if there needed to be another) is that it's really, really hard for people with mental illness to navigate the healthcare system to get proper treatment. Even I've experienced this, with ADHD. I joke that I take medication to remember to take my medication, and that's sometimes kinda true. I can only imagine what it would be like with delusions of persecution and voices in my head telling me to do stuff.

Another thing is that in the US, it's incredibly hard to get someone like Terry on medication if they don't want to be, even if it's in their own best interests. Most of the time, I'm generally in favor of this stance, as I don't think that anyone else, particularly the government, should be able to force medicate people against their wills. (NB: I'm not talking about vaccines here.)

The unfortunate result of these things is that people with really severe mental issues can easily end up homeless, or, at the very least, on disability and unable to work, and there's nothing anybody else can do about it.

Schizophrenia in particular is a real bastard of a disease, as you noted. Apparently, symptoms only go away in 70% of people who get treatment, and 15% of people with schizophrenia end up institutionalized.[0] The symptoms apparently also trend less severe over time, but there can be sudden and severe regressions.

Terry got dealt a bad hand, it's true. But, I don't think it's fair to say that getting banned from a website led to his death. If that was all it took, then just about anything could have caused him to go over the edge.

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[0]: https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-outlook#1

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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Post by peyton »

pengaru wrote: post #10
29athrowaway wrote: post #6

A perfect theme to drive into the glow as directed by the space alien talking through your car radio or the NIST random number generator. But I am disappointed at the blasphemous resolution. We can only do 640x480, 16 colors (4-bit depth). NOTE: corrected

> We can only do 640x480, 16-bit color depth. Heresy! 16-color (4-bit)

Ring 0 only. Ring 3 is like wearing three condoms. God wants us to be close to the hardware.

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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Post by progrus »

williamcotton wrote: post #21
kstrauser wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's sad and I feel for anyone whose mental illness drives wedges between them and society. I can't imagine many things more horrifying than to be a sentient mind trapped in a brain determined to play tricks on it. That said, you can't just let someone with those issues spew awfulness even if it's caused by a medical condition. That's a rough situation for the person being banned but I'm not sure what the less bad…

Sure you can, you just recognize that the person saying it is a very different kind of person. Who was actually offended by Terry’s schizophrenic ramblings? Is the n word really that disturbing when used by someone without a firm grasp on reality and in the midst of a word salad? Is it racist or just nonsense? “Rule are rules”… well, people in wheelchairs get a different set of rules and I’m perfectly fine sacrificin…

Too many people are still dealing with their own mental illnesses, to be able to see this…

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

#28

Post by pengaru »

OfSanguineFire wrote: post #17
pengaru wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Reminder that Terry being hellbanned on this website was cited by those who tracked him down in person towards the end as very not good for his mental state/part of reason for his extreme decline towards the end. Yikes. That's some serious deflection from the 4chan crowd, where the trolls came from who made it their mission to completely destroy this vulnerable person's life via the internet.

But did Terry fell that 4chan were his own people? He probably felt that the HN crowd was, and therefore being ostracized from them could have hit just as hard as the 4chan trolling.

They're totally orthogonal, the trolls weren't going to leave Terry alone regardless of his HN status.

HN had nothing to do with assholes "gifting" Terry a drum knowing it would completely disrupt his elderly parent's home he shared, and was subsequently forced to leave for living out of a minivan.

Then they preyed on his internet crushes discovered through his livestreams, watching those same livestreams as he read spoofed emails they sent from said crushes.

Ultimately what really ruined everything for Terry IMHO was live-streaming. You can't have vulnerable people live-streaming like that. It's when everything went off a cliff for him. There was realtime live video feedback for everything the trolls were doing anonymously to him. Instant gratification and optimization for their end.

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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Post by nrb »

williamcotton wrote: post #21
kstrauser wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's sad and I feel for anyone whose mental illness drives wedges between them and society. I can't imagine many things more horrifying than to be a sentient mind trapped in a brain determined to play tricks on it. That said, you can't just let someone with those issues spew awfulness even if it's caused by a medical condition. That's a rough situation for the person being banned but I'm not sure what the less bad…

Sure you can, you just recognize that the person saying it is a very different kind of person. Who was actually offended by Terry’s schizophrenic ramblings? Is the n word really that disturbing when used by someone without a firm grasp on reality and in the midst of a word salad? Is it racist or just nonsense? “Rule are rules”… well, people in wheelchairs get a different set of rules and I’m perfectly fine sacrificin…

I don’t think it’s remotely the same thing. What comfort are you sacrificing for the disabled in the real world? On the pseudo anonymous internet it’s impossible to tell whether you’re dealing with a very different type of person or just a troll hellbent on sabotaging your community. When the quality of discourse is in the dumps, who caused it or why won’t matter when folks have lost interest in engaging with that community any longer.

Re: Temple OS Theme for Arch Linux

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Post by 29athrowaway »

s5300 wrote: post #8

Sigh. Reminder that Terry being hellbanned on this website was cited by those who tracked him down in person towards the end as very not good for his mental state/part of reason for his extreme decline towards the end. Whether that’s true, no clue. But I like to think he deserved better.

The turning point was when he was kicked out of his house. That's when he became homeless and started living in a van.

That affected him in many ways, and it was noticeable. Before, he was always shaved and clean. After becoming homeless that changed.

Someone sent him a drum set and the noise annoyed his parents. He also annoyed them in other ways. Trolls were entertained by stressing the relationship between Terry and his family.

It was all the work of glowposting trolls. A reminder that we should not hesitate to drive into the glow.

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