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Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by vkbjlnjknbj »

somenewaccount1 wrote: post #9
dsr_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zulip isn't a Matrix server. Zulip doesn't federate. If you want a private, non-federated chat server -- for your organization, basically -- Zulip is awesome. If you want federated chat, Zulip doesn't do that.

Since every matrix server requires you create its own user id, I never understood the benefit of being federated.

it works the same way email does.

you can use a mozilla.com user id to talk to someone with a matrix.org user id, or a kde.org user id

all servers are equal participants in rooms, so a room doesn't live on a specific server aside from servers being able to create friendly names pointing to them, but nothing stops #foo:kde.org from pointing to the exact same room as #bar:mozilla.org -- both servers are participating equally and have their own shortcut name to the room

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by wjbolles »

robobro wrote: post #2

One thing I didn't like about Matrix: I had a single server with 3 or 4 other users. In a few months, the database ballooned to, like, 80GB. User-uploaded content, including text, was in the ballpark of 2 or 3GB. Is there any way to clear out the cache of data received from old servers, say, anything more than 2 weeks old, and re-retrieve it if needed?

Yeah, there are admin APIs that can clear old images, local and remote ones. For your specific scenario you probably want this one:

https://matrix-org.github.io/synapse/v1.85/admin_api/media_a...

My server is not federated but fairly active, and we treat it as ephemeral. We've configured it so anything older than a week or two gets reclaimed automatically, text and media.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by Semaphor »

somenewaccount1 wrote: post #9
dsr_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zulip isn't a Matrix server. Zulip doesn't federate. If you want a private, non-federated chat server -- for your organization, basically -- Zulip is awesome. If you want federated chat, Zulip doesn't do that.

Since every matrix server requires you create its own user id, I never understood the benefit of being federated.

You don’t need to sign up to multiple servers, if you can use the ID you already have to talk with everyone on other servers. Just like with E-Mail or XMPP.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by infogulch »

somenewaccount1 wrote: post #9
dsr_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zulip isn't a Matrix server. Zulip doesn't federate. If you want a private, non-federated chat server -- for your organization, basically -- Zulip is awesome. If you want federated chat, Zulip doesn't do that.

Since every matrix server requires you create its own user id, I never understood the benefit of being federated.

Apparently there's an idea for a feature to enable users to transfer their account and data from one federation node to another. Pretty sure it's in the "just an idea" phase, so don't hold your breath.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by CameronNemo »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #18

When I tried Matrix I found a lot of super right wing tech people using it. The main reason I could ascertain most of them were using Matrix was because they had been banned by other chat platforms for their opinions

Yeah you can find some ... Strange characters... off in the fediverse.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by CameronNemo »

infogulch wrote: post #24
somenewaccount1 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since every matrix server requires you create its own user id, I never understood the benefit of being federated.

Apparently there's an idea for a feature to enable users to transfer their account and data from one federation node to another. Pretty sure it's in the "just an idea" phase, so don't hold your breath.

Would be nice to transfer identity to a new domain but leave the server the same, like we typically do with email.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by gbraad »

lenova wrote: post #13
gbraad wrote: post #8

I might have missed something, but the page is very simplistic and assumes you know what Matrix is and how to use this; a lot of time is spent on the installation through different means, but none how to use the server itself, either by use of a client?

The landing page is pretty good if you are familiar with Matrix.org, and I'm assuming that it's aimed at Matrix developers. Personally I appreciated the brevity, simple declaration of the problem it's trying to solve, and a quick link to the real call to action (the Git repo). EDIT: realizing that the landing page may have been updated with new content itself since your original post.

I would hope the audience targeted is admins/deployers instead of developers, as you would like to drive adoption.

Re: Conduit: Simple, fast and reliable chat server powered by Matrix

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Post by erinnh »

ruslan wrote: post #27

Can someone please explain, why use Matrix while there's XMPP ?

My first thought was: „my question would be the reverse“. I have no idea why I’d use XMPP, so I will tell you what I like about Matrix.

- modern chat solution with features people have come to expect from Slack and Discord

- many bridges that have kept me from having to use more than one chat client for multiple protocols (think pidgin)

- lots of great communities are on matrix

- pretty good voice chat

- open source

- selfhosted

Those are my main reasons why I like Matrix. My question to you would be: what do you like about XMPP?

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