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Button Pushes You (2022)

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Re: Button Pushes You (2022)

#21

Sometimes, when faced with button choices "OK" and "Maybe Later", I open devtools and relabel the latter to "Fuck off" before clicking on it. I used to think it futile, but now I understand that this allows me to dismiss the modal without myself being pushed by a button.

I find it so offensive being given only two choices - "yes" or "maybe later". I salute your "fuck off" energy.

Re: Button Pushes You (2022)

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post #4

Slightly off topic, but I love the way that blog design uses the right gutter for annotations. Keeps it in context beautifully.

Edward Tufte's sidenotes. https://edwardtufte.github.io/tufte-css/ "Sidenotes are like footnotes, except they don’t force the reader to jump their eye to the bottom of the page, but instead display off to the side in the margin."

Of course it's Tufte. Thanks so much for the link!

Re: Button Pushes You (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you link to some examples of "marketing copy of old"? I'm curious to know how it differs.

Oh I mean, everything from the Marlboro man to "Just Do It" to Apple's "Think Different" was basically a corporate hook carefully crafted to be an appeal to individualism - although Apple threaded a needle with respect to exactly whom they chose to glorify as exemplars. The marketing pablum of the past decade that appeals to tribal identity, or a lack of sense of self searching for identity, (socially conscious ident…

Rejecting authority is never "a paved road" or easy otherwise it would not be authority. The world has moved on since the 60s and individualism has had disastrous effects on society and nature (even if it also brought great advances and freedom to some parts of the world)

Re: Button Pushes You (2022)

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post #4

Slightly off topic, but I love the way that blog design uses the right gutter for annotations. Keeps it in context beautifully.

On a tangent, if you read the book The 48 laws of Power then you know about all the sidenotes (more like complete side stories) throughout the book. I started reading this book on my smartphone years ago, and it was just an awful reading experience. The real paper book was way more readable, but still very annoying because of the long 'side stories'.

Re: Button Pushes You (2022)

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post #21

Sometimes, when faced with button choices "OK" and "Maybe Later", I open devtools and relabel the latter to "Fuck off" before clicking on it. I used to think it futile, but now I understand that this allows me to dismiss the modal without myself being pushed by a button.

I find it so offensive being given only two choices - "yes" or "maybe later". I salute your "fuck off" energy.

Someone should immediately make a cloud to butt like extension out of this.

Re: Button Pushes You (2022)

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> BPY represents a shift to turning user interfaces into a decision theatre that, by redefining long established elements, tricks users into performing work for the system they’re using.

Spot on.

A good example is Credit Karma UK's email alerts for credit score rise or fall, offering a button "Find out why". A click doesn't find out why. It lands you on a page of credit record info which might allow you to find out why, with considerable work and upsell-dodging.

As here, much BPY is simply false advertising at the UI core.

Re: Button Pushes You (2022)

#29
A particularly intriguing (to me) version of this kind of user-centered copy is not uncommon on sites in French and uses first-person verbs: “I accept,” “I start”. As opposed to the infinitive “Comment,” “Sign in,” etc.

Re: Button Pushes You (2022)

#30

A particularly intriguing (to me) version of this kind of user-centered copy is not uncommon on sites in French and uses first-person verbs: “I accept,” “I start”. As opposed to the infinitive “Comment,” “Sign in,” etc.

That reminds me of a noticeable difference in button UI wording traditions between Spanish and Catalan where the original English uses verbs, for instance Open, Edit, Save and Delete.

Specifically, Spanish translations interpret these as representing an impersonal description of the action, and thus the buttons are labelled using the infinitive: Abrir, Editar, Guardar and Borrar. Catalan versions, on the other hand, have interpreted the verbs as instructions aimed at the computer, and translate them in the imperative: Obre, Edita, Desa and Esborra.

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