Earlier this week it was a Wired hit piece telling us Signal is full of alt-right boogymen and naziquadroons. Now they're the champions of digital freedom. I'm gonna have whiplash!
https://www.wired.com/story/signal-politics-software-critici...
Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
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Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
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-Elbakyan's actions are directly against private gatekeepers of publicly-funded knowledge -Signal is an alternative to the messaging apps that hoover up all your data. Not sure about that 3rd org but I'll be sure to look them up
Maybe it doesn't sell all your data, but Signal's threat model is surveillance capitalism alone:
>The application uses a centralized computing architecture
>Registration for desktop use requires an iOS or Android device
>Signal uses mobile telephone numbers as an identifier for users.
>OWS had received a subpoena requiring them to provide information associated with two phone numbers for a federal grand jury investigation in the first half of 2016. Only one of the two phone numbers was registered on Signal, and because of how the service is designed, OWS was only able to provide "the time the user's account had been created and the last time it had connected to the service".
Which are big regressions compared to predecessors pgp and otr.
Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
#23I'm not sure Elbakyan receiving this award is particularly appropriate, considering she is strongly pro-Putin and is a big fan of Joseph Stalin (she regularly quotes him on VK).
As I told my kid at supper tonight, words are meaningless, people judge you on your actions. And Elbakyan's actions the past decade are commendable.
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Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
#24Earlier this week it was a Wired hit piece telling us Signal is full of alt-right boogymen and naziquadroons. Now they're the champions of digital freedom. I'm gonna have whiplash!
Are you talking about the Wired piece linked by smartbit ? If so this seems like an unfair summary given the piece is very long, the first half sings technical praise, the second half laments the challenges faced, and there's one single small paragraph (that I saw) that mentions some Signal users as possible boogymen: The company’s aggressive pursuit of growth, coupled with lack of moderation in the app, has already…
I dont understand how you want to have secure e2e messaging app AND not have fascist (and pedophiles, druglords) in there. Of course they are there.
The whole point of the app is that it cant be moderated because nobody knows the contents.
This must be obvious to anyone using Signal and having atleast remote understand of it.
I think that must have been written by some random commenter who think it works like facebook (aka police honeypot).
Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
#25Earlier this week it was a Wired hit piece telling us Signal is full of alt-right boogymen and naziquadroons. Now they're the champions of digital freedom. I'm gonna have whiplash!
Consider the source.
Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
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How could EFF of all things be considered left wing?
Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
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This is a cute but IMHO misinformed take. This is not left wing and you cannot do just privacy. Also, private sectors havr to follow the rules of the state they are operating in - the state can make uo whatever rules. So the state is the main problem.
Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
#28I'm not sure Elbakyan receiving this award is particularly appropriate, considering she is strongly pro-Putin and is a big fan of Joseph Stalin (she regularly quotes him on VK).
A lot of American "Libertarian" techbros are extremely pro-Russia and pro-Putin. It's not surprising that they have given Elbakyan this award.
Privacy and espionage is not the only reason we Europeans should detach from Silicon Valley as fast as possible. Using services owned by libertarian VC people like David Sachs is akin to willingly handing data out to Putin.
Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
-Elbakyan's actions are directly against private gatekeepers of publicly-funded knowledge -Signal is an alternative to the messaging apps that hoover up all your data. Not sure about that 3rd org but I'll be sure to look them up
Maybe it doesn't sell all your data, but Signal's threat model is surveillance capitalism alone: >The application uses a centralized computing architecture >Registration for desktop use requires an iOS or Android device >Signal uses mobile telephone numbers as an identifier for users. >OWS had received a subpoena requiring them to provide information associated with two phone numbers for a federal grand jury investig…
Your grandma could use Signal.
What is use of messaging app that nobody else will/be able to use with you? (like pgp and otr) Yeah its useless.
You have to go to users. If you complain that Signal is bad because its on iOS and Andriod… good luck chatting with your two postmarketOS friends.
Re: Annual EFF Awards: Alexandra Elbakyan, Library Freedom Project, and Signal
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe it doesn't sell all your data, but Signal's threat model is surveillance capitalism alone: >The application uses a centralized computing architecture >Registration for desktop use requires an iOS or Android device >Signal uses mobile telephone numbers as an identifier for users. >OWS had received a subpoena requiring them to provide information associated with two phone numbers for a federal grand jury investig…
Your grandma could use Signal. What is use of messaging app that nobody else will/be able to use with you? (like pgp and otr) Yeah its useless. You have to go to users. If you complain that Signal is bad because its on iOS and Andriod… good luck chatting with your two postmarketOS friends.
Also it works for plausible deniability. We can argue that I installed Signal for just chat to my friends.