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Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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edit: i assumed the parent did not know how to do that, i tried locally and it seemed to work, but i did not pay attention to the text original: on the left side of the url input field you'll find "AA"(the first smaller then the seconds), tap that then, near the bottom of the pop-up menu you'll have "Show Reader", tap that if you're not happy with the text as displayed then, you can go back to the "AA" menu and chang…

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oh shit, i'm sorry

Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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Not to be that guy, but it’s unreadable either zoomed in or in reader mode either horizontal or landscape on iOS. Colin, could the website be updated to the 2010s? :P

It's not Colin's fault that you're using a browser that can't render an html rendition of an email which has been widely in use since before iOS existed. This is entirely Safari's fault for not having good compatibility with a common existing webpage format. Anyway, if you're the intended audience (someone using tarsnap), you also received a copy to your email address, where you can read the text with your email read…

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Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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yes, people have been saying they should "charge more" for over a decade

Can you not be snide and please help me understand? It seems 50 times more expensive than B2. I'm genuinely curious about the product.

The service is a layer on top of S3 if that helps answer things.

https://www.tarsnap.com/faq.html#is-tarsnap-reliable

Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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post #23

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Can you not be snide and please help me understand? It seems 50 times more expensive than B2. I'm genuinely curious about the product.

The service is a layer on top of S3 if that helps answer things. https://www.tarsnap.com/faq.html#is-tarsnap-reliable

Then the obvious question is "why would I use this instead of something else over S3" (ex. rclone), to which I think the answer is ease of use (don't need to deal with AWS yourself, encryption/deduplication/compression handled for you, nice interface), which isn't everything to everyone but is certainly useful.

Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The service is a layer on top of S3 if that helps answer things. https://www.tarsnap.com/faq.html#is-tarsnap-reliable

Then the obvious question is "why would I use this instead of something else over S3" (ex. rclone), to which I think the answer is ease of use (don't need to deal with AWS yourself, encryption/deduplication/compression handled for you, nice interface), which isn't everything to everyone but is certainly useful.

Thank you.

Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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blinks Ok, I really wasn't expecting this to land at the top of HN. I'd love to stick around to answer any questions people have, but it's 10PM and my toddler decided to go to bed at 5PM... so if I'm lucky I can get about 4 hours of sleep before she decides that it's time to get up. I'll check in and answer questions in the morning.

Why would I use your service over restic? God bless you Colin, but reading this, it appears you're the only one in charge of the infrastructure for this service. I'm glad you're clear about no SLA, but this seems like a big liability between me and my backups.

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Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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blinks Ok, I really wasn't expecting this to land at the top of HN. I'd love to stick around to answer any questions people have, but it's 10PM and my toddler decided to go to bed at 5PM... so if I'm lucky I can get about 4 hours of sleep before she decides that it's time to get up. I'll check in and answer questions in the morning.

Why would I use your service over restic? God bless you Colin, but reading this, it appears you're the only one in charge of the infrastructure for this service. I'm glad you're clear about no SLA, but this seems like a big liability between me and my backups.

I'm curious how the prices shake out against services like Wasabi, since it's just dumping to an AWS S3 bucket

Wasabi does $7/TB with no ingress/egress fees. My NAS is set up to rclone to it about once a day and I've yet to have any problems

Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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blinks Ok, I really wasn't expecting this to land at the top of HN. I'd love to stick around to answer any questions people have, but it's 10PM and my toddler decided to go to bed at 5PM... so if I'm lucky I can get about 4 hours of sleep before she decides that it's time to get up. I'll check in and answer questions in the morning.

Why would I use your service over restic? God bless you Colin, but reading this, it appears you're the only one in charge of the infrastructure for this service. I'm glad you're clear about no SLA, but this seems like a big liability between me and my backups.

What use is SLA? If a service goes down for too long, are you really going to hire a lawyer sue it over SLA or just... use another backup?

Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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Aren't these storage prices absurd? Please let me know if I'm misunderstanding.

It's insane. Not sure how anyone can accept such a rip off pricing.

Tarsnap : $0.25 / GB storage, $0.25 / GB bandwidth cost

rsync.net : $0.015 / GB storage, no bandwidth cost

s3 : $0.023 / GB storage, some complicated bandwidth pricing

If tarsnap is built on top of s3, they're charging 10 times for the storage cost. Easy money from the uninformed?

Re: Tarsnap outage postmortem

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The service is a layer on top of S3 if that helps answer things. https://www.tarsnap.com/faq.html#is-tarsnap-reliable

Then the obvious question is "why would I use this instead of something else over S3" (ex. rclone), to which I think the answer is ease of use (don't need to deal with AWS yourself, encryption/deduplication/compression handled for you, nice interface), which isn't everything to everyone but is certainly useful.

You need a remote service that keeps backup readonly. You’re not covering attack scenarios if you just use raw object storage from your client machine.

I have written about this some time ago if you’re interested: https://www.franzoni.eu/ransomware-resistant-backups/

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