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Re: OpenPipes: Build your open-source virtual pipe organ system

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Post by jacquesm »

112233 wrote: post #20
jacquesm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Subtle difference: GrandOrgue uses samples of actual organs, pipe-by-pipe. It can direct its output to many different channels and has software mixers to map the outputs onto the number of channels you've got. An 'electronic organ' is a device that creates organ-like sounds, either using tonewheels (for instance: Hammond) or some electronic oscillator and then uses various methods to mix in or filter harmonics. This…

As an aside, I wish there was a way to get Modartt software in a low latency stand-alone enclosure. I wonder if someone has DIYed a thing

I'm using it on Ubuntu Studio with Jack and that's fast enough that I don't see lag. It'll never be as quick as an electronic piano but midi over USB is quite fast. I love their Linux support by the way, rock solid.

Re: OpenPipes: Build your open-source virtual pipe organ system

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Post by noeontheend »

Professional organist here! Having a VPO at home is life changing. I'm lucky to live within a ten minute walk from my current employer, which has quite legitimately one of the best organs in the world, but even then, being able to practice at home occasionally is wonderful.

I bought a new home organ about two years ago and (long story) hoped to integrate a pedalboard I already had into it. I still haven't gotten that working, so I'll definitely be looking at this site's pedalboard controller to finally get that working.

(Also, feel free to ask me anything about organs, organ software, etc.)

Re: OpenPipes: Build your open-source virtual pipe organ system

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Post by drukqs »

noeontheend wrote: post #23

Professional organist here! Having a VPO at home is life changing. I'm lucky to live within a ten minute walk from my current employer, which has quite legitimately one of the best organs in the world, but even then, being able to practice at home occasionally is wonderful. I bought a new home organ about two years ago and (long story) hoped to integrate a pedalboard I already had into it. I still haven't gotten that…

I've been a user of PianoTeq for a bit now, and I'm curious if you have an opinion on it, relative to other organ VSTs out there...

Re: OpenPipes: Build your open-source virtual pipe organ system

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Post by bluGill »

drukqs wrote: post #24
noeontheend wrote: post #23

Professional organist here! Having a VPO at home is life changing. I'm lucky to live within a ten minute walk from my current employer, which has quite legitimately one of the best organs in the world, but even then, being able to practice at home occasionally is wonderful. I bought a new home organ about two years ago and (long story) hoped to integrate a pedalboard I already had into it. I still haven't gotten that…

I've been a user of PianoTeq for a bit now, and I'm curious if you have an opinion on it, relative to other organ VSTs out there...

PianoTeq is considered the best piano sound. some even argue it is better than a real grand piano (it never goes out of tune) - but only if you have a great keyboard (several thousand dollars!), and sound system (more $$$) They are not known for organ sounds though.

If you want organ sound, then the software to look at is: grandorgue, Hauptwerk ($$$, but reported to be great), Aeolus (simulates pipe via math, the rest work on samples of real organs). There are probably others, but the above is what I see come up most often when this is discussed.

Re: OpenPipes: Build your open-source virtual pipe organ system

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Post by noeontheend »

drukqs wrote: post #24
noeontheend wrote: post #23

Professional organist here! Having a VPO at home is life changing. I'm lucky to live within a ten minute walk from my current employer, which has quite legitimately one of the best organs in the world, but even then, being able to practice at home occasionally is wonderful. I bought a new home organ about two years ago and (long story) hoped to integrate a pedalboard I already had into it. I still haven't gotten that…

I've been a user of PianoTeq for a bit now, and I'm curious if you have an opinion on it, relative to other organ VSTs out there...

I'm actually _not_ a pianist, which often surprises people! I did of course start on the piano, but all of my high level training has been on the organ, and the technique is different enough that I don't feel comfortable playing pianistic writing anymore. I can pretend to be a pianist when necessary and make it sound good enough, but a competent pianist would notice plenty of flaws.

I can't speak to PianoTeq, but I've used both GrandOrgue and Hauptwerk as mentioned in the sibling comment. As a mostly FOSS user, I'd like to be able to just use GrandOrgue, and the software itself would work well enough for that. However, the quality and diversity of sample sets (organs recorded, one pipe at a time, to simulate playing different organs around the world) is nowhere near that of Hauptwerk. I work in a very Anglican music program with an English leaning organ, so being able to simulate an English cathedral organ is important to me. The organs available for GrandOrgue tend to be more German Baroque leaning and much smaller. In an ideal world, you'd be able to buy the same Hauptwerk sets for GrandOrgue, but licensing prevents that.

I once worked on building a GrandOrgue file editor, but the specification is a nightmare. I'd like to finish that project someday though.

Re: OpenPipes: Build your open-source virtual pipe organ system

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Post by drukqs »

noeontheend wrote: post #26
drukqs wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a user of PianoTeq for a bit now, and I'm curious if you have an opinion on it, relative to other organ VSTs out there...

I'm actually _not_ a pianist, which often surprises people! I did of course start on the piano, but all of my high level training has been on the organ, and the technique is different enough that I don't feel comfortable playing pianistic writing anymore. I can pretend to be a pianist when necessary and make it sound good enough, but a competent pianist would notice plenty of flaws. I can't speak to PianoTeq, but I'v…

Sorry, I wasn't totally clear in my question... I was looking for your opinion on OrganTeq!

Re: OpenPipes: Build your open-source virtual pipe organ system

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Post by exabrial »

jacquesm wrote: post #17
exabrial wrote: post #11

It’s more of electronic organ than pipe organ… but in my ignorance, between the sound clips I wouldn’t know the difference.

Subtle difference: GrandOrgue uses samples of actual organs, pipe-by-pipe. It can direct its output to many different channels and has software mixers to map the outputs onto the number of channels you've got. An 'electronic organ' is a device that creates organ-like sounds, either using tonewheels (for instance: Hammond) or some electronic oscillator and then uses various methods to mix in or filter harmonics. This…

Well hot damn, learned something else today

Re: OpenPipes: Build your open-source virtual pipe organ system

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Post by mkesper »

bluGill wrote: post #25
drukqs wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a user of PianoTeq for a bit now, and I'm curious if you have an opinion on it, relative to other organ VSTs out there...

PianoTeq is considered the best piano sound. some even argue it is better than a real grand piano (it never goes out of tune) - but only if you have a great keyboard (several thousand dollars!), and sound system (more $$$) They are not known for organ sounds though. If you want organ sound, then the software to look at is: grandorgue, Hauptwerk ($$$, but reported to be great), Aeolus (simulates pipe via math, the res…

Very good keyboards are under 1000$ as far as I learned. Active boxes can also be had relatively cheap. No need to fall into the audiophile trap.
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