After seeing what canada's immigration system did to their white color jobs' salaries and home ownership, they can have them.
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Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System
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#22Immigration aside, why don't these countries ever invest in their own citizens to level up?
In the United States there have been scholarship programs sponsored by the US government that pay for a students IT degree in exchange for government employment for X years after graduation. Obviously, government pays less than private sector, but at least you have a job and a degree. It would be lovely if private companies offered similar programs. The cynical answer as to why they don't is because it's cheaper to import workers than train them here, plus importing more workers suppresses wages (see supply and demand) and brain drains foreign competition.
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#23Wonder how many people are thinking “maybe I’ll go to Canada, spend a few years, get citizenship there, then come back to America as a Canadian with much better prospects”?
I'd estimate that most people in the tech pipeline intend that. TN status is a lot easier to get and tech salaries are much higher in America.
TN visas are not for software engineers, they are for software analysts, or actual engineers. And they are not dual intent (you can't convert them to a green card).
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#24Wonder how many people are thinking “maybe I’ll go to Canada, spend a few years, get citizenship there, then come back to America as a Canadian with much better prospects”?
TN is useful, but not _that_ useful if you eventually want to get a Green card.
And GC quotas are based on place of birth.
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#25I can't imagine that America's byzantine visa system is accomplishing any useful policy goal, it's just a mess. Compare to a country like Germany, where you can get a work visa, extend it indefinitely, and then roll it over into permanent residency after five years. No bullshit, no lotteries, you just meet the legal requirements and your applications are accepted in a matter of weeks.
It is a mess, but the corporations love it. It creates an indentured servant class that applies downward pressure on technical salaries.
If you have a US work visa for 24 months (max), it should automatically roll over into a green card. Background checks should be the responsibility of the company to get finished before 24 months and failure to do so should be a Federal felony that puts the CEO in jail.
This would completely unblock the technical pipeline for US visas.
I hope Canada sucks up all the good H-1Bs leaving behind the dregs. It would finally force corporations to lobby to fix the problems.
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#26Immigration aside, why don't these countries ever invest in their own citizens to level up?
Canada’s dealt with a brain drain problem to the US for a couple of decades at least. The amount of folks I know who got educated in Canada and eventually moved to the US due to CoL and salaries is significant. It’s a shame.
That's how you buy a house in Canada. Get paid in America.
It’s a shame.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd estimate that most people in the tech pipeline intend that. TN status is a lot easier to get and tech salaries are much higher in America.
TN visas are not for software engineers, they are for software analysts, or actual engineers. And they are not dual intent (you can't convert them to a green card).
1. The are plethora of examples online people holding TN work as a SDE with a CS degree
2. I believe you can file to change intent 90 days after entry
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#28I can't imagine that America's byzantine visa system is accomplishing any useful policy goal, it's just a mess. Compare to a country like Germany, where you can get a work visa, extend it indefinitely, and then roll it over into permanent residency after five years. No bullshit, no lotteries, you just meet the legal requirements and your applications are accepted in a matter of weeks.
It is a mess, but the corporations love it. It creates an indentured servant class that applies downward pressure on technical salaries. If you have a US work visa for 24 months (max), it should automatically roll over into a green card. Background checks should be the responsibility of the company to get finished before 24 months and failure to do so should be a Federal felony that puts the CEO in jail. This would c…
It seems like fixing it would push tech salaries down even more so wouldn't corporations prefer that?
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#29I can't imagine that America's byzantine visa system is accomplishing any useful policy goal, it's just a mess. Compare to a country like Germany, where you can get a work visa, extend it indefinitely, and then roll it over into permanent residency after five years. No bullshit, no lotteries, you just meet the legal requirements and your applications are accepted in a matter of weeks.
>Compare to a country like Germany, where you can get a work visa, extend it indefinitely, and then roll it over into permanent residency after five years. No bullshit, no lotteries, you just meet the legal requirements and your applications are accepted in a matter of weeks.
Yep, it's much the same in Japan. Work visas for skilled jobs (like IT) are easy to get if a company wants to hire you, and you can apply for permanent residency in 1, 3, or 10 years, depending on how many points you score. IT professionals can easily get enough points for the 1 or 3-year requirements. As you said, no bullshit, no lotteries, just meet the legal requirements.
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#30Ironically the #2 post on /r/canada right now is titled "'I'm done with Canada': High cost of living leads some to leave the country" ( https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/1538vpj/im_done_wit... )
I'm done with the cost of living and I was born here.