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Disney, Netflix, and more are fighting FTC's 'click to cancel' proposal

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Re: Disney, Netflix, and more are fighting FTC's 'click to cancel' proposal

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Post by j16sdiz »

dtgriscom wrote: post #6
jkaplowitz wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not paying a debt you legitimately owe doesn’t eliminate the legitimacy of the debt. Most app owners probably won’t take any further action against you because it’s not usually worth the time and money (at least in the US), but they’re entitled to. If they sell your debt to a debt collector, have fun with that. (Tangent: there is usually a certain number of years of inaction after which they can’t go after you for th…

Generally they'll try to bill for the next month of service, be unsuccessful, and then cut off the user. No further angst.

Some service disallow you from signing up ever again. Might be able to workaround, but this is annoying.

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Post by muro »

ericmay wrote: post #14
xg15 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many interstitials would you allow after the clearly visible option in the account settings?

The same amount it takes to sign up

You might need name, address etc as part of the sign up, but if they made me enter all of that againz it would be infuriating.

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Post by b3lvedere »

appleflaxen wrote: post #15
chiefalchemist wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have not used it myself, but you may be interested in https://privacy.com/

I use it all the time, and it is fantastic You get a new credit card number for every service, and can put any limit you want on the card. So my Netflix card is capped at $10 a month My trial signup cards are capped at $2 for their lifespan My gym card is capped at $10 per month, and cancelled when I want to leave. It's just a fantastic service.

I truly get that it is a fantastic service.

What i don't understand is that it is essentially a necessary service for consumers, because corporates have the luxury to can and will not care about problems with automatic (over)charging.

So therefore i'm all for 1-click canceling subscriptions.

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Post by littlecranky67 »

throwaway2990 wrote: post #20

This is why I don’t want alternative payment options on iOS. It’s 1 click cancel on subscriptions. It’s enforced and they have no say or cannot make it difficult for me to cancel.

The UX is great, but not worth paying 30% more.

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Post by emsy »

throwaway2990 wrote: post #20

This is why I don’t want alternative payment options on iOS. It’s 1 click cancel on subscriptions. It’s enforced and they have no say or cannot make it difficult for me to cancel.

How about just not using those options?

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Post by ivolimmen »

One of the great perks of living in the Netherlands. We already have this. If you can sign up in 1 minute using the web you must also be able to cancel in one minute using the web (For the Dutch: Wet van Dam). This rule is only for consumers not for businesses. Consumers are very well protected here.

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Post by mr_mitm »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #24
throwaway2990 wrote: post #20

This is why I don’t want alternative payment options on iOS. It’s 1 click cancel on subscriptions. It’s enforced and they have no say or cannot make it difficult for me to cancel.

The UX is great, but not worth paying 30% more.

43% more. The dev gets 70% of the value on the price tag, so that value is 1/0.7=1.428 of what the dev gets.

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Post by andersa »

xg15 wrote: post #10
glimshe wrote: post #7

I prefer that the government doesn't go too heavy handed with the rule and try to solve all problems with requirements such as maintaining detailed phone records. We don't want huge costs of compliance making it harder for small players to enter the market. I think the rule of "sign up online, cancel online using a clearly visible option in the account settings", plus the legalese to cover corner cases, would be a hu…

How many interstitials would you allow after the clearly visible option in the account settings?

Exactly one, "are you sure you want to cancel the subscription?" "yes" "no".
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