Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.
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Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
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Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#22Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.
I wouldn't say Reddit is user hostile.
Recent actions have been to make profitable companies pay for API access. That isn't hostile to users. It's hostile to parasite companies who make a profit from your product while taking away from your revenue.
There are a select group of users who decided to vandalise the site in response. They were allowed to do so for a small period of time. In fact, some hardcore groups are still vandlaising the site. People are constantly asking why it's happening. The fact they were allowed to vandalise the site seems the opposite of hostile to users.
Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#23Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.
I wouldn't say Reddit is user hostile. Recent actions have been to make profitable companies pay for API access. That isn't hostile to users. It's hostile to parasite companies who make a profit from your product while taking away from your revenue. There are a select group of users who decided to vandalise the site in response. They were allowed to do so for a small period of time. In fact, some hardcore groups are…
Of course Reddit is user hostile.
- Can't use web version without getting the mobile version banner forced down your throat every other interaction.
- Actively making the non-app version worse than the mobile, for no reason other than engagement metrics.
- Not able to view "NSFW" posts (of which everything is just false labeled as that) without logging in; even though it shows you the image on the timeline (the entire "NSFW" part) - a dark pattern / cheap tactic to drive sign up.
And this is just to name a few, dark patterns are a plenty across their site.
I won't go into the API side of things as others have said it better, and it seems you've already made your mind up there.
Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#24If anyone's interested, I made an open-source reddit reader with Svelte a while back that uses a similar technique:
GitHub https://github.com/arcanemachine/svelte-reddit
https://reddit-micro.surge.sh/
It's nothing fancy, I just wanted to make something with Svelte (it's got some pretty rough edges, and it's unfinished in some parts).
Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#25Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.
I wouldn't say Reddit is user hostile. Recent actions have been to make profitable companies pay for API access. That isn't hostile to users. It's hostile to parasite companies who make a profit from your product while taking away from your revenue. There are a select group of users who decided to vandalise the site in response. They were allowed to do so for a small period of time. In fact, some hardcore groups are…
> It's hostile to parasite companies who make a profit from your product while taking away from your revenue.
So, why give cheap/free unlimited API access in the first place? To drive adoption.
So, it's EEE, all again. How this is not user, even market hostile?
Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#26Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.
I wouldn't say Reddit is user hostile. Recent actions have been to make profitable companies pay for API access. That isn't hostile to users. It's hostile to parasite companies who make a profit from your product while taking away from your revenue. There are a select group of users who decided to vandalise the site in response. They were allowed to do so for a small period of time. In fact, some hardcore groups are…
That conveniently glosses over the fact that users provide all the content for free, that these “vandals” then moderate 24/7 for free.
To say “well, I’m not going to do it if you take away my tools” is entirely fair imo.
Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't say Reddit is user hostile. Recent actions have been to make profitable companies pay for API access. That isn't hostile to users. It's hostile to parasite companies who make a profit from your product while taking away from your revenue. There are a select group of users who decided to vandalise the site in response. They were allowed to do so for a small period of time. In fact, some hardcore groups are…
Of course Reddit is user hostile. - Can't use web version without getting the mobile version banner forced down your throat every other interaction. - Actively making the non-app version worse than the mobile, for no reason other than engagement metrics. - Not able to view "NSFW" posts (of which everything is just false labeled as that) without logging in; even though it shows you the image on the timeline (the entir…
That's not hostile. That's wanting you to use one version over the other. The fact you think if they don't support your desired version of using it over any other then it's hostile to you.
The things you've mentioned aren't even dark patterns. One of them could be considered just a figament of your imagination. And one "Oh they make me log in to see porn" like really? Really?
Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't say Reddit is user hostile. Recent actions have been to make profitable companies pay for API access. That isn't hostile to users. It's hostile to parasite companies who make a profit from your product while taking away from your revenue. There are a select group of users who decided to vandalise the site in response. They were allowed to do so for a small period of time. In fact, some hardcore groups are…
That conveniently glosses over the fact that users provide all the content for free, that these “vandals” then moderate 24/7 for free. To say “well, I’m not going to do it if you take away my tools” is entirely fair imo.
> That conveniently glosses over the fact that users provide all the content for free, that these “vandals” then moderate 24/7 for free.
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> To say “well, I’m not going to do it if you take away my tools” is entirely fair imo.
No other social platform allows users to moderate. Complaining because a social platform gives you a feature you want but doesn't pay you for using the feature you want is really silly.
Then to stop doing it. It's like going to a shop helping them out and then when they decide to stop giving stuff away and try and make a profit you smash up their shop. It's not an acceptable way to act.
Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#29So this thing is advertised as a "Reddit client without using their API", but then it uses the reddit API for everything. The JSON endpoints are part of the API. It's how all apps get the content of subreddits, comments, etc. It's odd that they're still open for unauthenticated access, but I expect that to change.
Re: Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without using API
#30Call me cynical but building a client for a user hostile service is a sign of a Stockholm syndrome.
Totally agree. I was ready to pay for Reddit access in some shape or form but after my favorite client (Apollo) shutdown, understandably, and after I saw how Reddit treated the developer and the community I decided it was time to leave.
It was/is incredibly hard to do so, it was a near-daily habit for well over a decade but there has to be a line somewhere and Reddit barreled right past it and never looked back.