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France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

The statement becomes true when all good cops avoid policing the bad ones, which is the whole point of it.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

This is someone who has been fortunate to never need assistance.

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Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

Absolutely not. It's a profession, every cop out there can just... not be a cop.

Comparing that to skin color or someone's ethnicity is absolutely ridiculous.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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> They noted that a judge must approve any use of the provision We tried the same in the US. Our intel agencies just lied to the judges, who mostly otherwise were hip to the con and acted as a rubber stamp.

While the intel community in the United States seems to be above the law I don't think lying to a judge in France is ignored to the same extent.

How can a judge possibly have all the context required to make a decision like this, do they get access to the Intel so they can verify the claims?

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

Blanket statements might be bad, but please do not compare people with a specific job to ethnic and religious minorities. Jewish and black people do not stop being who they are ever. Where as a cop is off duty, retired, or fired for misconduct. It's just a job title, but it comes with a lot of authority given on behalf of the state

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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what tech does this even use? Do they mean using Pegasus or similar malware that the govt has to first get onto the suspect's devices, or is this via Google/Apple or the device manufacturers that makes 'remotely and secretly activating a microphone' even possible?

> what tech does this even use? Do they mean using Pegasus or similar malware that the govt has to first get onto the suspect's devices, or is this via Google/Apple or the device manufacturers that makes 'remotely and secretly activating a microphone' even possible? It would have to be after compromise, which would mean its likely only used on a very small number of cases due to the sensitivity and cost of the techno…

This bill could be step one. Step two could be a requirement for SW/HW manufacturers to add a backdoor since this is not really effective to fight crime this way. I'm not saying it is planned or there's some conspiracy for establishing a totalitarian state.

But we can't really predict the future and more loose rules could be introduced by the next government with a totally different agenda who might thank for the previous one for creating this legal framework.

Also, this section is weird too:

> They said sensitive professions, including doctors, journalists, lawyers, judges and MPs, would not be legitimate targets.

Apparently software engineering is not a sensitive job.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

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Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

You know that you _choose_ to be a policeman, right? Is not that you are born a policeman.

I can definitely say all killers are rotten inside, and it's a blanket statement.

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