Ross Ulbricht Threatens LowEndBox. It's Weird • Hacker News Board

Re: Ross Ulbricht Threatens LowEndBox. It's Weird

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Post by ineedasername » Fri, Jun 30, 2023, 6:39 AM UTC

ceph_ wrote: post #19

mike_d wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that was 100% an FBI sting operation ... Never would have happened if it weren't for the feds. No, it never would have happened unless he wanted to kill three people and paid to have it done. In his mind he wanted people dead and was willing to outsource it, at no point did he say "oh lol I bet you are totally kidding but I am going to pay you anyway."

The FBI's evidence wasn't strong enough to even try him for this. Charges were dropped. If it happened the way the FBI said initially it would have been open and shut. But I guess they lied about what they had.

The charges were dropped only after Ulbricht was found guilty & sentence to life w/o parole on other charges. Why should I want the government to waste enormous amounts of $$$ for someone who is already going to spend the rest of their life in jail?

Re: Ross Ulbricht Threatens LowEndBox. It's Weird

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Post by ineedasername » Fri, Jun 30, 2023, 6:44 AM UTC

This post was flagged? I wonder why. When new posts are [dead] I can at least "vouch" for them but there appears to be no such recourse for [flagged], and it's not clear to me why this one would be, excepting that some people seem to have very firm opinions supporting the #freeulbricht narrative, which this post goes against. Unless I'm reading too much into that? I don't know.

Re: Ross Ulbricht Threatens LowEndBox. It's Weird

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Post by glimmung » Fri, Jun 30, 2023, 8:43 AM UTC

mike_d wrote: post #17

monero-xmr wrote: post #8

Regardless of your opinion on Ross, the facts of the case are excessively strange: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/former-secret-service-a... The agent investigating him extorted him for bitcoins! This doesn’t even factor in any of the parallel construction conspiracies. I think he has served enough time. I don’t see why keeping him in jail helps society at this point. https://freeross.org/

> This doesn’t even factor in any of the parallel construction conspiracies. Parallel construction isn't a conspiracy. It is a legitimate investigative technique. For example if you have an undercover agent inside a motorcycle gang who tips you off about who murdered someone, you investigate and build a pattern of facts that proves who did it but does not draw a line to your source so they can continue to provide act…

Parallel construction may be a "legitimate investigative technique", but when it gets to court it is perjury, plain and simple.

Re: Ross Ulbricht Threatens LowEndBox. It's Weird

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Post by mike_d » Sun, Jul 02, 2023, 8:11 AM UTC

glimmung wrote: post #23

mike_d wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This doesn’t even factor in any of the parallel construction conspiracies. Parallel construction isn't a conspiracy. It is a legitimate investigative technique. For example if you have an undercover agent inside a motorcycle gang who tips you off about who murdered someone, you investigate and build a pattern of facts that proves who did it but does not draw a line to your source so they can continue to provide act…

Parallel construction may be a "legitimate investigative technique", but when it gets to court it is perjury, plain and simple.

> but when it gets to court it is perjury, plain and simple.

The Supreme Court unanimously disagreed in Bronston v. United States.

Re: Ross Ulbricht Threatens LowEndBox. It's Weird

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Post by glimmung » Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 8:25 AM UTC

mike_d wrote: post #24

glimmung wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parallel construction may be a "legitimate investigative technique", but when it gets to court it is perjury, plain and simple.

> but when it gets to court it is perjury, plain and simple. The Supreme Court unanimously disagreed in Bronston v. United States.

I'm not aware of the Supreme Court having authority over the dictionary though.