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People Hire Phone Bots to Torture Telemarketers

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Re: People Hire Phone Bots to Torture Telemarketers

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Because they know other companies require people to have phone numbers for "2FA".

I'm on vacation now. Had an o shit moment when my bank wouldn't let me complete a purchase because they just hadddd to SMS me, with no other option.

Google voice is an OK workaround. Bonus points: much more difficult to socially engineer your number away from you

Re: People Hire Phone Bots to Torture Telemarketers

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One time I received a call from my mobile provider, offering me a free upgrade. I thought I was very smart and sophisticated, and rudely demanded information - "oh yeah? what's your name mr SCAM CALLER!" I also wanted a session ID so I could call back the official number and be reconnected. He was quite baffled and said "errr... we don't do that". I immediately felt like Kitboga - I'm onto you, scammer!!

Turned out it was legitimate and I just looked like a jackass. Got my free upgrade though.

While I didn't need to be so arrogant, I think companies should make it easier to prove their identity. When I call my bank, they ask for information like DOB etc to prove it's me. Fair enough. But it never works in reverse if they call me, like a push message via their app, or an ID number I can call back with. I feel a bit silly asking.

Re: People Hire Phone Bots to Torture Telemarketers

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Unfortunately, people have jobs where they don't know every number that might call them before hand, so as part of being responsive clients, pick up. Until we hunt telemarketers for sport, this will not stop being a miserable experience.

Well, clearly they must be selling something to someone to keep the lights on...

Obviously. According to the FTC, millions and millions of dollars worth of worthless car warranties, fake fraud protection, scam legal protection services, and fraudulent pharmaceutical benefit services, just to start with.

Gotta keep those lights on...because they're just marks and screw them if they fall for it amiright /s.

Re: People Hire Phone Bots to Torture Telemarketers

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Should be able to rig up a noise emitter into the line that can work without suffering from the noise yourself.

Or what about just incorporating this into the telemarketer aggravation bot? Reduce the volume, they'll have to turn their headset up to continue to conversation, then blast them with a bunch of highly clipped distortion. Although most of the spam calls I get are bots on the other end - political, police shakedown, lazy leadgen for some company (eg cable TV), etc. The ones that are actually human are generally outrig…

I ask them if their parents know that their job is to scam old people all day

Oh, hey! I'm not the only one whose done this. A couple of other good one:

- "How did you get into this line of work? Are your parents frauds too? Is it a genetic thing maybe we can weed out? Who do your parents rip off?"

- "When you see your family on the holidays, do you tell them you're a professional fraud, or do you actually have a sliver of shame? Do you have like sibling who think your cool for ripping people off?"

- "What does your god think of how you make a living?"

Get cussed out some, but most of them are obviously fine with it, usually via some variation of "hey gotta pay bills, just doing my job". The 'smile and dial' crowd self selects for zero-ethics worldviews. The god one did get me a death threat, which is nice. I'm sure they added me to a bunch of call lists as 'revenge'. Worth it.

Re: People Hire Phone Bots to Torture Telemarketers

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Because they know other companies require people to have phone numbers for "2FA".

I'm on vacation now. Had an o shit moment when my bank wouldn't let me complete a purchase because they just hadddd to SMS me, with no other option.

I’ve had that happen too. Unfortunately these seem like edge cases for most companies and sms based 2FA remains the default.

I’ve finally found a good workaround when traveling abroad: adding a local eSim for data-only and keeping my U.S. number on for receiving voice & text.

Re: People Hire Phone Bots to Torture Telemarketers

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Telemarketing is just a subset of the greater evil of marketing in general. It is an industry of invading your attention in an effort to manipulate you into doing something you otherwise wouldn't. We should take every opportunity to worsen their lives as they have employed themselves to worsen ours.

> It is an industry of invading your attention in an effort to manipulate you into doing something you otherwise wouldn't.

Just to play devil's advocate for a second. Some times you don't do things that would benefit you. In these cases getting your to do something that you wouldn't otherwise do is beneficial.

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