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Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

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Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#21

Please use the money to rewrite it in Jakt ;) Jakt needs a posterchild project to receive the required attention. Besides, it would send not one but two strong messages to Mozilla

Memory safety is absolutely on the long-term roadmap for Ladybird. But Jakt still needs time to mature before making it a dependency :)

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#22
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I'm very happy Shopify is doing this, but at the same time I'm mildly confused by the rationale. Is it literally just goodwill, or does Shopify stand to have other potential advantages out of this? Either way, cool.

https://www.youtube.com/@awesomekling/search?query=shopify

Maybe this is one of the reason?

It will be awesome if Ladybird can render Shopify perfectly, not to mention all the free exposure.

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#23
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Hello friends! I’m really happy to have Shopify putting their faith in our little project like this :) If you’d like a quick intro to the Ladybird project, I presented it at a conference earlier this month: https://youtu.be/De8N1zrQwRs Huge thanks to Mike, Tobi and the other folks at Shopify who hooked this up. <3

Congratulations, Andreas! Keep up the good work on Serenity and Ladybird! I hope to move to using Serenity OS once it matures somewhat :)

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#24
post #14

Hello friends! I’m really happy to have Shopify putting their faith in our little project like this :) If you’d like a quick intro to the Ladybird project, I presented it at a conference earlier this month: https://youtu.be/De8N1zrQwRs Huge thanks to Mike, Tobi and the other folks at Shopify who hooked this up. <3

did this come about because shopify was the first page you visited in your May update video? nice bit of serendipity!

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#26
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Related (not sure if it is the same sponsor): "I have received a $100k sponsorship for Ladybird browser" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36377805 (540 points | 10 days ago | 166 comments)

That was a separate sponsor! This month has been weird, to say the least :)

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#27
post #2

I'm very happy Shopify is doing this, but at the same time I'm mildly confused by the rationale. Is it literally just goodwill, or does Shopify stand to have other potential advantages out of this? Either way, cool.

Along with the other suggestions, if Shopify were looking to build a POS (point of sale) device - a "Shopify terminal" - on low cost low power hardware then Labybird could be a good fit for the UI.

There are other browser engines targeted at this sort of embedded product, and ladybird obviously isn't specifically targeting it. But it may be a good play due to licensing and royalties if they expect to build millions of them.

Another could be to build a WYSIWYG rich text editor. Obviously a lot of Shopifys front end is about point and click building a store visually. "contenteditable" based editors are a nightmare of browser inconsistencies and bugs. If you could compile Ladybird to WASM and render to a html canvas, you could side step all that with your existing editor, only having to target one "browser".

I've not seen anyone do that yet, but I think it's a really compelling use case.

(Accessibility of canvas based UIs is still an unsolved problem though)

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#28

We seriously need a good open source browser alternative. Great to see competition here. I would love to see a browser built for developers with new paradigms for Dev Tools. Of course, the challenge will be parity in terms of rendering and performance with the current incumbents.

I don't know... I'm probably a Firefox fanboy, but all this fragmentation in the market of browsers that are not named Chrome isn't doing us much good in beating Chrome. I'm interested in Chrome being beaten, and it still seems Firefox has the best cards (though I don't know _how_). Once there's healthy competition in browser land, let's reconsider fragmenting it ;-)

Re: Welcoming Shopify as a Ladybird sponsor

#30

We seriously need a good open source browser alternative. Great to see competition here. I would love to see a browser built for developers with new paradigms for Dev Tools. Of course, the challenge will be parity in terms of rendering and performance with the current incumbents.

I don't know... I'm probably a Firefox fanboy, but all this fragmentation in the market of browsers that are not named Chrome isn't doing us much good in beating Chrome. I'm interested in Chrome being beaten, and it still seems Firefox has the best cards (though I don't know _how_). Once there's healthy competition in browser land, let's reconsider fragmenting it ;-)

I am also a Firefox fanboy but I don't have any hope Firefox will improve its market share in any meaningful way without significant changes at Mozilla. At this point I am convinced Mozilla is the biggest obstacle to Firefox's success.
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