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Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

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Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

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Atlassian, before Atlassian, asked me to open source my wiki engine, because they wanted to create a wiki. Did that, LGPLed it, and Confluence was born ;-) [Edit] "Engine" is ambigous, wiki render engine would be more precise [0]. To be transparent and because it is not and was not my intention to mislead people: the code was a library that rendered Wiki markup into HTML and had a plugin/extension system to e.G. rend…

Did you do that before or after GPLv3 was released?

Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Asking this in a friendly manner, but don't you feel bad that something you created was taken essentially for free by a corporation and monetized? Money isn't everything, but I would think it fair for the creator to receive their share

Mostly not. But sometimes yes, company created billions [0] and I haven't seen a cent :-) [0] Yes, also JIRA

It's quite the resume bullet point I assume!

Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

#24

How do people pay the bills when they start a company? I'd go start a company right now if I could figure out how to pay my car payment while doing it.

Don't have car payments? Just buy a cheap or used car for cash instead of a fancy car that you can't afford.

Live below your means, so you're not stuck in working longer and longer hours just to pay for your lifestyle.

Accept help from family. If your parents have a big house, move back in with them. If your wife has a good job, ask her if she's okay with being the primary breadwinner for some time.

Build a small fraction of your company on the side, while still working as an employee.

Maybe even find some contract work to do part time.

Or find an investor who pays you a salary to work on your startup :)

Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every open source developer has been asking this question for the better part of three decades. Possibly four.

I think there's still a difference of using small libraries which contribute to a single or couple functions here and there, versus taking an entire open source product and wrapping a commercial structure on top of it. Could be hypocrisy on my behalf though

If you don't want that to happen, then don't release your software as free software. Use a CC-NC license or something similar.

Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

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How do people pay the bills when they start a company? I'd go start a company right now if I could figure out how to pay my car payment while doing it.

Start with sales. It may take a few of months ( In my experience, almost all new businesses price far too low in the early days.

I started my business with a product that cost 5€. There's no single path to success, there are a million ways to start a profitable company.

Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

#27

Yikes, I have to create an account and subscribe to read the second half of the article? Think the complaints about that are obvious. Leaving a comment in case anyone else wants to avoid that particular experience. Shame, it was an interesting and well written article.

https://10minutemail.net/

Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

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post #22

Atlassian, before Atlassian, asked me to open source my wiki engine, because they wanted to create a wiki. Did that, LGPLed it, and Confluence was born ;-) [Edit] "Engine" is ambigous, wiki render engine would be more precise [0]. To be transparent and because it is not and was not my intention to mislead people: the code was a library that rendered Wiki markup into HTML and had a plugin/extension system to e.G. rend…

Did you do that before or after GPLv3 was released?

Before, but today I would choose Apache or MIT.

Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly not. But sometimes yes, company created billions [0] and I haven't seen a cent :-) [0] Yes, also JIRA

It's quite the resume bullet point I assume!

Worked as a manager/CTO for decades, it's not that important.

Now I work as a CTO coach for some years now - which I enjoy a lot - and it has even less impact there.

But perhaps I'll add "From the guy who put {macro} into Atlassian® Confluence®" :-) Thanks!

Re: Bootstrapping Atlassian: $10k In Credit Card Debt To $20M In Revenue In 5 years

#30

How do people pay the bills when they start a company? I'd go start a company right now if I could figure out how to pay my car payment while doing it.

Work nights and weekends until you start getting paying customers and then hopefully you can reach a point of walking away from your existing job.
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