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LexisNexis is selling personal data to ICE so it can try to predict crimes

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Re: LexisNexis is selling personal data to ICE so it can try to predict crimes

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If you are giving data to someone, or having data produced about you, it is a good assumption at this point that someone is trading it, selling it or monetizing it. With no effective data ownership or privacy legislation in the US, it will continue to be that way.

I used to work for LN for years. At the time, basically all their data comprised public records than were purchased from government agencies such as DMV/DOL, courts, county assessors, etc. This isn't a problem of "if you aren't buying the product, you ARE the product."

Not long before I left, they were integrating with insurance data, which expanded out of government records. No clue where they've gone since.

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You can get a free copy of what LexisNexis has on you, just like you can with your credit report. The difference is that the LexisNexis report is book thick for most people. The amount of information far exceeds what the credit bureaus have. In my case, quite a bit of it was wrong but adjacent. It thought I owned a huge commercial building, which was actually owned by the developer of a condo I owned in another part…

Would you be willing to list what categories of data are in that file?

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You can get a free copy of what LexisNexis has on you, just like you can with your credit report. The difference is that the LexisNexis report is book thick for most people. The amount of information far exceeds what the credit bureaus have. In my case, quite a bit of it was wrong but adjacent. It thought I owned a huge commercial building, which was actually owned by the developer of a condo I owned in another part…

https://consumer.risk.lexisnexis.com/request

Re: LexisNexis is selling personal data to ICE so it can try to predict crimes

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It's pretty crazy that our legislators and courts haven't addressed this loophole that allows law enforcement agencies to buy data that they can't legally collect. This essentially nullifies the fourth amendment.

> This essentially nullifies the fourth amendment.

Courts seem to think that this information does not have an expectation of privacy since the user gave it away.

Re: LexisNexis is selling personal data to ICE so it can try to predict crimes

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post #19

ALPR Automatic License Plate Readers are a significant portion of this article, and they raise a lot of questions in my mind. If the police have access to realtime info on the location of all vehicles, how is auto theft still a thing? How are gangs stealing $100k worth of tools from hardware stores and driving away scott free? Are we just at a time before wide use of the data ALPRs provide?

It's very rare for a crime to be truly unsolvable. For the vast majority it's all about the amount of time and effort the authorities want to put in. License plate readers or not, if your local PD and the DA's office have decided to deprioritize auto thefts then there's nothing you can do about it.

Illegal immigration could easily be solved by giving anyone who hires undocumented workers a million dollar fine. The American economy relies on a cheap, obedient and disposable class of workers.

Re: LexisNexis is selling personal data to ICE so it can try to predict crimes

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ALPR Automatic License Plate Readers are a significant portion of this article, and they raise a lot of questions in my mind. If the police have access to realtime info on the location of all vehicles, how is auto theft still a thing? How are gangs stealing $100k worth of tools from hardware stores and driving away scott free? Are we just at a time before wide use of the data ALPRs provide?

The glib answer is that cops are lazy and don't want to do their job. Another is that even though the data is there and theoretically could be searched as you describe, nobody has built a system that a typical detective could reasonably use to actually conduct that search.

Also, professional car thieves would just start swapping plates if the cops started doing this.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lexis nexis is way beyond what you’re describing. Its basically a company that forms dossiers on every person, even if they had no digital footprint. It combines every source of public data possible, and even includes court records that are sealed or expunged

How does it have access to sealed court records? I thought the whole point of "sealed" meant that the contents of the case were off-limits to the public for any and all reasons

Most cases are not sealed from the outset - so anything already out there is indexed forever, regardless of current legal status.

This was the case at least when I looked into in ~20 years ago. There simply was no point in following the expungement process since all the usefulness of it was already gone due to the records existing in private databases.

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the stolen cars are taken to a chop shop or ditched before the owner even realizes it has been stolen.

Don't the chop shop locations show up at the hub of stolen car paths when the ALPR data is used retrospectively for cars reported as stolen?

I imagine chop shop owners would destroy all nearby license plate cameras when setting up their location.

Re: LexisNexis is selling personal data to ICE so it can try to predict crimes

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You can get a free copy of what LexisNexis has on you, just like you can with your credit report. The difference is that the LexisNexis report is book thick for most people. The amount of information far exceeds what the credit bureaus have. In my case, quite a bit of it was wrong but adjacent. It thought I owned a huge commercial building, which was actually owned by the developer of a condo I owned in another part…

https://consumer.risk.lexisnexis.com/request

Thank you. That was surprisingly simple and quick.
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