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Goodbye, San Francisco

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Re: Goodbye, San Francisco

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Post by kneebonian »

orangepurple wrote: post #5

The local crime statistics are saying that San Francisco is a safe city with crime trending downwards.

The statistics are the result of the DAs refusing to prosecute crime. At the beginning of the BLM era everyone said that what is going to happen is police officers are no longer going to do arrests because they fear becoming the next major incident, at the same time the DAs started refusing to prosecute people, so they'd end up back on the street.

The result was no one was investigating or prosecuting crimes anymore. Everyone predicted what would happen next is that the pundits, the news media, and the politicians would point to "see crime is actually trending downwards the numbers are going down." when in reality police were no longer as responsive, at the same time people would stop calling the police because the wait times would be too long and they know nothing would happen.

This is what's happening, and I will not be convinced otherwise. 2+2=4

Re: Goodbye, San Francisco

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Post by ecshafer »

They mention in this the rebuttal "Other cities in the US are just as bad. Why are you picking on SF?" which matches my experience. The west coast cities are much much worse with regards to random violence than any of the cities in east coast or midwest I've been to in the last 5 years. Detroit, Chicago, Philly, NYC, Baltimore, sure they have violence and homeless people. But they feel much safer and back to normal than SF or Portland.

Re: Goodbye, San Francisco

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Post by maerF0x0 »

oldstrangers wrote: post #15

"dense, central area and not in a single family house that’s 4 miles from downtown." This is kind of funny to me considering I'd guess for the majority of America, 4 miles is remarkably close.

It's remarkably close by car, and though it was common for me when I lived in SF, I do not know many people who enjoy 2.25ish hour (round trip) walks. And doing $25 a day in ubers adds up fast too.

Re: Goodbye, San Francisco

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Post by nemothekid »

orangepurple wrote: post #5

The local crime statistics are saying that San Francisco is a safe city with crime trending downwards.

The pocket which OP lives in is pretty much an encampment. I don't particularly understand OP's attachment to that area; I've also lived in SF for 10 years, and downtown SF is easily the most uninteresting part of SF to me; but I can understand feeling unsafe in that area even if it is statistically safe.

Re: Goodbye, San Francisco

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Post by WirelessGigabit »

orangepurple wrote: post #5

The local crime statistics are saying that San Francisco is a safe city with crime trending downwards.

The reality is that crime is a statistic and fully depends on your definition of crime and how well it is reported.

Take the So now you have a theft that isn't reported.

Crime goes down.

Re: Goodbye, San Francisco

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #19

> Thankfully, I escaped with only scrapes and bruises, but that was really upsetting for me, and I felt that it was only a matter of time before something worse happened. Lately, with my observation that much of American life is getting much much worse. I often think about leaving America entirely, attempting to hold my breath a little longer to get what America most has to offer these days -- superior compensation/s…

If you don't need diversity, year-round hot weather, and sky-rocking housing prices - there's tons of nice affordable places near The Great Lakes.

Also, Philadelphia has some quite nice areas that are pretty affordable. And it's an easy train ride away from NYC.

Re: Goodbye, San Francisco

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Post by whimsicalism »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #23
oldstrangers wrote: post #15

"dense, central area and not in a single family house that’s 4 miles from downtown." This is kind of funny to me considering I'd guess for the majority of America, 4 miles is remarkably close.

It's remarkably close by car, and though it was common for me when I lived in SF, I do not know many people who enjoy 2.25ish hour (round trip) walks. And doing $25 a day in ubers adds up fast too.

The Muni is effectively a donation based system and can take you much further and faster if you live in the right neighborhoods.

Re: Goodbye, San Francisco

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Post by [deleted] »

__blockcipher__ wrote: post #10
orangepurple wrote: post #5

The local crime statistics are saying that San Francisco is a safe city with crime trending downwards.

The article says as such: > My biggest problem with SF was simply not feeling physically safe while walking down the street or sitting in a train. SF has a pretty low violent crime rate, at least by US standards, so I wasn’t worried about getting shot or robbed or anything like that. > Instead, the problem was that SF had (and still has today), thousands of people wandering around who are suffering from untreated sub…

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