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Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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> Also folders can be browsed as a series of menus when placed in the dock. http://toastytech.com/guis/osxhddoc.jpg That is more useful than the icon view it has now.

You can still get it like that, just right click on any folder that is pinned to the right side of the Dock, you’ll get 4 different display options.

Thank you!!

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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You can still get it like that, just right click on any folder that is pinned to the right side of the Dock, you’ll get 4 different display options.

Thank you!!

Also should mention "Folder Peek" by Sindre Sorhus which basically does the same but in the menubar, quite handy and free.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Having never actually interacted with a mac from that era, are the grey and white stripes in the toolbar screenshots actually visible on the screen or are they an artifact of old screenshots on modern displays?

The "pinstripes" were totally there, and celebrated by many. Note that they are slightly translucent, too, just like the pinstriped housings of the plastic Macs of that era.

They really didn't look bad, though. I think if you zoom the image larger it will give you a better impression of what they actually felt like.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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They glossed over the NeXT roots which is telling, the ideas were only half-heartedly baked into the OS. It should be strictly enforced that everything on-screen has a relationship to everything else. But that would have been hard work, and they realized eye candy was an easier route when you can just announce something else every few years. This is why desktop evironments really haven't changed since the first comme…

What does it mean for everything on screen to have a relationship to everything else? Could you elaborate?

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Wow, unbelievable that it was designed in 2001! It still looks fresh and modern, although maybe a bit too playful so that it appears a bit childish? But only barely. It appears to have all the basic functionality expected from a modern operating system, I instantly feel right at home although I've never used it. I find the review terrible though, one of the major changes was the user interface, revolutionary I would…

I’d vote the opposite on the playful aspect. Todays UIs feel oppressively monotonous and lacking heart.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Wow, unbelievable that it was designed in 2001! It still looks fresh and modern, although maybe a bit too playful so that it appears a bit childish? But only barely. It appears to have all the basic functionality expected from a modern operating system, I instantly feel right at home although I've never used it. I find the review terrible though, one of the major changes was the user interface, revolutionary I would…

Circa 2000 I recall playing with a developers beta version of MacOS X approx 6 months or so pre-release. The move from motorola based power pc chips to x86 already felt a decade too late. And the nextstep & netbsd origins? Very "meh". Apache, Mosaic, Napster all crashing hard requiring system reboots. Apple was playing catch-up to professional grade sgi & sunos (which is what every one was using to build the early web back in those days) ;)

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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The first time I learned about OS X, I blindly bought Apple shares. I knew it would set them up for success down the road. Sounds silly now but foundation, such as OS for a computer company, matter.

Although, OS X was painful for many years.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Having never actually interacted with a mac from that era, are the grey and white stripes in the toolbar screenshots actually visible on the screen or are they an artifact of old screenshots on modern displays?

They are visible. It was a design element throughout the UI at the time.

I guess it was a carry over from the original Macintosh OS all the way back from 1984.

https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/System_1

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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Feels playful because everything else from that era was ugly in my opinion

I wouldn't call XP (Luna) theme ugly. It wasn't as clean as Windows2k but it was just fine.

Everything after Windows 2000 was ugly.

Windows 2000 was the last system in the world with coherent and beautiful UI.

Those times are over. We can't have good things.

Re: MacOS X 10.1 (2001)

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They glossed over the NeXT roots which is telling, the ideas were only half-heartedly baked into the OS. It should be strictly enforced that everything on-screen has a relationship to everything else. But that would have been hard work, and they realized eye candy was an easier route when you can just announce something else every few years. This is why desktop evironments really haven't changed since the first comme…

What does it mean for everything on screen to have a relationship to everything else? Could you elaborate?

The classic MacOS's Finder was 'spatial'. Since each folder on disk could only be open in a single window, and that window remembered its position and layout, there was a certain physical consistency - it felt like the windows were the actual folders on disk, with the same kind of coherency and stability you expect of real-world objects.

Meanwhile, the Mac OS X Finder is not spatial. You can have the same folder open in multiple windows, each with different layouts. There's no longer that illusion that the window and the folder are one and the same – it's just a browser showing you the contents of the folder.

This article goes into a lot more detail. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2003/04/finder/

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