We don’t need a separate HN post for every subreddit that’s doing this.
We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th
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#22Personally I feel bad for all those folks that moderates/contributes in Reddit and at Stack Overflow. Imagine pour hundreds of hours for the sake of enjoyment, sharing or nurturing a community and due to some market circumstances not having a saying in any decision. To be honest, seeing those movements from those companies makes me feel that the future of open communities (but some how walled) it’s bleak.
I'm a mod on one subreddit and I squat a couple more. I think most subs are relatively small, so it doesn't require much effort. It probably takes me no more than 30 minutes a week, at the most!
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#23/r/formula1 is the We here
I wish that were in the title
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#24It amazes me how little Reddit's leadership understand about their own history. Reddit essentially took off because Digg screwed the pooch so hard with their redesign and just general mismanagement of their community.
"Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it." Personally, I'm looking forward to Reddit going the way of Digg.
There’s a few posts that are pretty valuable and should be archived in some form or another.
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#25This should link to the full albeit incomplete list: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/1401qw5/incomplet...
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#26Personally I feel bad for all those folks that moderates/contributes in Reddit and at Stack Overflow. Imagine pour hundreds of hours for the sake of enjoyment, sharing or nurturing a community and due to some market circumstances not having a saying in any decision. To be honest, seeing those movements from those companies makes me feel that the future of open communities (but some how walled) it’s bleak.
Honestly, I don't. There is a lot of talk of the price being unreasonable. Realistically, it's rather reasonable. The problem only comes in when these apps have failed to monetize subscriptions. In some cases, these apps are monetized by ads and therefore directly competing with Reddit for the ad buy. Seriously, I am meant to feel bad that someone who decided to directly compete with a company is now being charged mo…
>The problem only comes in when these apps have failed to monetize subscriptions.
1. I'm not entirely sure if that's allowed in the Reddit API TOS to begin with (before this change).
2. There's too many alternative ways to browse reddit to really make headway as a subscription app. Including Reddit's official app and simply opening up the mobile website (even if Reddit does everything in its power to ruin the website experience on mobile. They REALLY want you using the app). I don't mind and have paid for ad-free versions of several 3rd party apps, but that's a single small payment.
3. this brings up a much larger issue forums have been going through for decades; is it really "right" to continually charge or content that is mostly user generated? I don't think people mind a one time payment for a stable release of what is ultimately a nicely designed web viewer. But beyond that?
There's many reasons why no app dev has thought of this. Legally, logistically, and even ethically. Personally, I'd just feel weird asking people to pay me money every month when the overhead maintenance of my app (which I imagine is minimal. bug fixes and some small feature requests while MAYBE doing a bigger request every 6-12 months) isn't what's keeping them there, it's the ability to keep reading posts/comments submitted by users. How do I justify my price as a middleman unless I am delivery major releases every month or two?
>This is about Reddit users being too cheap to pay for something they want and used on a daily basis
I don't entirely disagree. But app/mobile has long since raced to the bottom, so that's an inevitable consequence.
Put it this way; if Reddit itself charged even 1$/month to comment/post, do you think people would stay? I think they'd flee off to Tiktok personally. Older users would try and rekindle older forums,but overall I don't think many would stay, even if $1/month is almost objectively a good deal for the content provided. There's too much other popular platforms that are "free". And if enough of the community gets pushed, they can migrate elsewhere. They ultimately hold the value.
I don't think this is the push, but it's always possible.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, I don't. There is a lot of talk of the price being unreasonable. Realistically, it's rather reasonable. The problem only comes in when these apps have failed to monetize subscriptions. In some cases, these apps are monetized by ads and therefore directly competing with Reddit for the ad buy. Seriously, I am meant to feel bad that someone who decided to directly compete with a company is now being charged mo…
Banning NSFW content has nothing to do with "reddit users being too cheap". It also doesn't cost reddit anything since content moderation is mostly done by moderators for free.
That one is specifically annoying because "NSFW" is such a generic filter that doesn't always have something to do with sexual content. Some communities mark themselves as 18+ simply as a safeguard against SOME media they talk about that can be rated 16/17+ (R/M/MA/etc). But That isn't the content adverts are worried abobut.
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#28I hope that this leads to the demise of reddit and the resurgence of xenforo self hosted forums. In a way, I miss vbulletin.
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#29It amazes me how little Reddit's leadership understand about their own history. Reddit essentially took off because Digg screwed the pooch so hard with their redesign and just general mismanagement of their community.
They understand a lot about Digg's history and they want to make sure that this time both the managers and the investors will reach the most profitable pay day possible. Either by selling the site or getting an IPO. That's the only target.
Personally for me, Reddit lost the human touch several years ago and with the cancelling of Secret Santa that was one of the most fun activities on the internet, I've stopped using the site almost completely.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, I don't. There is a lot of talk of the price being unreasonable. Realistically, it's rather reasonable. The problem only comes in when these apps have failed to monetize subscriptions. In some cases, these apps are monetized by ads and therefore directly competing with Reddit for the ad buy. Seriously, I am meant to feel bad that someone who decided to directly compete with a company is now being charged mo…
Reddit is a pretty terrible product and it's not cheap of people to decide that it only makes sense to use if free. Ideally we all would have realized Twitter and Reddit aren't worth our time, but if it's facing that they're not worth our money that gets us to break our habit of settling for them as time wasters, that's cool too.
>if it's facing that they're not worth our money that gets us to break our habit of settling for them as time wasters, that's cool too.
Let's be honest: even if we agree it's a waste of time and it then becomes financially unviable; you just find another time waster. Tiktok, Instagram, Youtube, 4chan, etc. Heck, some would just go and watch porn. There's no end of sites (new and old) with oodles of user generated content to waste time on.
People aren't brainwashed and magically become productive when the brainwashing stops. Or you can interpret it less generously and say that they are so brainwashed that they will see other means if one of them stops.